--- Glowdot Dot Com <rick@glowdot.com> wrote:
quoted 10 lines The new voting machines are being provided by a
> > The new voting machines are being provided by a
> > few companies and surprise surprise all the CEOs
> > for the 3 or 4 companies are Republican, some of
> > them are even Bush's rangers.
>
> This is the kind of hysterical ignorance I'm talking
> about. Do you REALLY
> think the Republican party would risk the utter
> bloodbath that would ensue
> if they rigged the next election via voter fraud?
You mean like Watergate, the republicans would never
try and plant bugs the democrats. Or like Katherine
Harris, she would never hire a company like DBT to
compile a HUGE list of suppose felons to prevent a
certain demographic from voting. And it must of just
been an honest mistake that 90% of the people on their
list were completely innocent, and I suppose African
Americans never got turned away from the polls in
Florida either.
And most recently, I guess Republicans didn't know
that they were not suppose to try and access and spy
on the democrat's internet server, where they kept
their strategies and private communications. I mean
spying for a whole year must have been an honest
mistake.
quoted 2 lines Holy shit, it would be
> Holy shit, it would be
> the end of the party. Please.
Right they would never do anything like that kind of
stuff. Got it
quoted 10 lines I've never heard anyone call Bush engenious.
> > I've never heard anyone call Bush engenious.
>
> He supposedly put this plan of miraculous World
> Domination(tm) into play
> within hours after 9/11. I'd called that pretty
> fucking genius. For a man
> who before 9/11 was a hillbilly hayseed, he sure
> seems to be pulling a lot
> of devious schemes behind America's back. I just
> want to know, which is it?
Well the Project for the New American Century (PNAC)
was written back in 1998 by Cheney and likeminded
Neocons. And don't forget Bush pretty much grabbed all
the people that worked under his dad and Reagan. He
had all the old school cold warriors and I'm sure they
had lots of plans of their own.
http://www.pnac.info/
quoted 3 lines We're you in L.A. roughly a year ago? Or New York?
> We're you in L.A. roughly a year ago? Or New York?
> Spent time in both.
> Sentiment widespread, to say the least.
I would say that the internet helped that. People can
hear about stuff and copy ideas and exchange artwork,
etc. So it's not surprising.
quoted 12 lines Yes, the plus side is Saddam is gone, but we also
> > Yes, the plus side is Saddam is gone, but we also
> have
> > to ask at what price did we pay for that. The war
> is
> > averaging $4.7 billion a month, we've lost over
> 700
> > soldiers, killed over 10,000 civilians, we are
> stuck
> > in a quagmire, no WMDs were found, the US's
> reputation
> > is seriously in the toilet, and there doesn't seem
> to be any exit strategy.quoted 2 lines That is a legitimate gripe, and those are the
> That is a legitimate gripe, and those are the
> arguments the left should have made all along.
Those are the gripes I have heard all along.
quoted 2 lines The rest, as I said, are not. Calling Bush Hitler is
> The rest, as I said, are not. Calling Bush Hitler is
> ignorant flap.
Well, everyone loves to site Hitler. I've heard school
kids reference their teachers as being like Hitler.
i've heard cops that bust raves compared to nazis
How many times has our government used the reference
of hitler to demonize someone? Several times I can
recall.
quoted 6 lines Since you brought up Jon Stewart, he
> Since you brought up Jon Stewart, he
> also said, in the same
> segment, that by calling Bush Hitler you immediately
> lose credibility (not
> to mention that you instantly insult and degrade the
> suffering of some 6 million people -- [my add.]).
Yeah, I saw that. I like Jon Stewart a lot. Do we even
know who know the political affiliation of the person
(s) that started the comparison. Were they anarchists?
anti-global demonstraters, hippies, ravers for PLUR,
etc.
quoted 5 lines * Impeach Bush! (by Internet petition? by
> > > * Impeach Bush! (by Internet petition? by
> placing
> > > ads in your local paper? Huh?)
> >
> > Wishful thinkingquoted 4 lines Yes, and utter ignorance. I wish I could get a
> Yes, and utter ignorance. I wish I could get a
> million dollars by placing
> "tiny classified ads". Attempting to actually do so
> would make me an ignorant jackass.
Hmm..I can think of many examples of ignorance and
stupidity like freedom fries, major hysteria against
the dixie chicks, a guy getting arrested for wearing a
peace T-shirt in the mall. Saying you are against the
troops if you question Bush's rush to war, etc.
Janet Jackson's nipple overreaction. Face it there is
no shortage of ignorance
quoted 6 lines Well if you think lying about a blowjob is an
> > Well if you think lying about a blowjob is an
> > impeachable offense.
>
> Look, I loved Clinton. Voted for him twice and
> worked on his campaign. But shut up with that shit
> already.
You have to look at history.
quoted 4 lines Is lying about a blowjob an impeachable
> Is lying about a blowjob an impeachable
> offense? No. Is lying about a blowjob in a court
> of law an impeachable
> offense? Yes. And so he was impeached.
Should we have spent the millions and had over 200 FBI
agents focused on investigating Clinton to just come
up with that? Agents that maybe could have been
returned calls back flight schools, or doing something
useful.
quoted 2 lines The Democrats would have done the same, given the
> The Democrats would have done the same, given the
> opportunity.
About lying about a sexual indiscretion? I don't think
the left is nearly as organized as the right when it
comes to attack politics. I'm sure the democrats would
have brought up the issue, but I can't see it going
nearly as far as the Starr report and everything. It
was pretty absurd to spend so much money and go on and
on and on and on and on....
quoted 3 lines Hell, as I said, they've been screaming for
> Hell, as I said, they've been screaming for
> impeachment with no impeachable offense for over
> three years, what does that tell you?
That the country is divided.
quoted 5 lines Then lying to the people to get
> > Then lying to the people to get
> > us into a war (to enrich the oil companies from
> your
> > home state) ought to be an impeachable offense as
> > well.quoted 2 lines If only it were a crime to lie to the public. Alas,
> If only it were a crime to lie to the public. Alas,
> it is not.
obviously, the media and government would have a very
hard time if they had to focus on the truth
quoted 3 lines There is a lot of fishy stuff regarding the 2000
> > There is a lot of fishy stuff regarding the 2000
> > elections. I could go into detail but it's late
> for mequoted 3 lines Ugh. Both parties agreed to settle the matter
> Ugh. Both parties agreed to settle the matter
> before the Supreme Court. If
> the court had ruled in Gore's favor, what then?
I think all the votes should have been counted and the
dirty tricks should have been investigated and
prosecuted.
Tiem to get back to work
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