quoted 10 lines Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:00:57 -0800 (PST)> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:00:57 -0800 (PST)
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> From: Greg Baker <vacationtheory@yahoo.com>
> Subject: genres
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> > Yeah, I've heard people categorize RDJ album and Lunatic Harness as
drill
quoted 5 lines 'n' bass, but i dont get the connection. I thought drill 'n' bass was> 'n' bass, but i dont get the connection. I thought drill 'n' bass was
> supposed to be super harsh experimental drum 'n' bass... am i missing the
> big picture here?
>
> I think the word drill'n'bass was journalistic sarcasm (Reynolds?) which
got
quoted 3 lines taken literally as some kind of hot new music genre by overseas Wire> taken literally as some kind of hot new music genre by overseas Wire
> subscribers. In any case like eggy said it's about dance music not for the
> dancefloor which could well describe super harsh experimental drum 'n'
bass.
quoted 2 lines isnt every genre name made up by some journalist? and the question is>
> isnt every genre name made up by some journalist? and the question is
whether or not RDJ album and Lunatic Harness are considered drill 'n' bass.
That's fine if you think experimental drum 'n' bass is IDM, but i'm saying
RDJ album and Lunatic harness are IDM first and foremost, not Drill 'n' Bass
as was suggested earlier. only reason i was saying that drill is not IDM is
because i think people immediately want to just shove drill in as part of
IDM because it can be so hard to listen to. i really believe that IDM
represents more of a balance or jux with harsh/jagged elements and
serene/smooth elements. i care because you do is a perfect example of what
i'm talking about. my question is really about whether or not there is a
place for nice, friendly sounds in the drill genre. i had said that drill
is not IDM, and was corrected because it would mean that RDJ album and
Lunatic Harness are not IDM. which i believe they are, so i want to get to
the bottom of my confusion. i cant
quoted 3 lines be walkin around sayin classics aint classics.> be walkin around sayin classics aint classics.
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> greg
Well I don't believe there is such a thing as 'IDM' in the first place let
alone 'drillnbass'. I think if you ask any of the guys who actually invented
the music that these genre names were attached to, they would tell you that
they made electronica or experimental electronic music. IDM was a purely
American term because for some reason they had already decided to call
stadium dance acts like the prodigy electronica. I strongly suspect this was
down to some ignorant music journo but shit sticks I guess. My point is that
this music originated in the UK and here there was never a drill'n'bass
scene for example, this stuff has always been played together and mixed up
and this is why we have interesting music. These micro-genre names must
describe a perceived common denominator to be in use - but that doesn't say
anything about a piece of music or its worth.
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