quoted 2 lines Are there any 18 yr olds on this list anymore, do the college kids give> Are there any 18 yr olds on this list anymore, do the college kids give
> a fuck anymore? I hope so.
College kid here! :) Not 18 anymore though, 24. Anyways, for
me IDM is about making new stuff, exploring new sounds and to be honest I
generally don't care wether my music is danceable or dj'able or not. In
that respect, I feel a lot of affinity with skinny puppy and the like
because in those days it was all about doing stuff with your equipment
that was not in the manuals, and that was all that mattered. I don't mind
the party scene, but I don't care for it either.
quoted 4 lines I don't know about the rest of you guys but vocals, dancing and> I don't know about the rest of you guys but vocals, dancing and
> community are the things that excite me these days. I don't need all
> three at the same time but I do need at least one. What's on my ipod?
> 1994, you know, when IDM was the shit!
I don't think Sean & Rob, to name a bunch, really gave a fuck wether
their beats worked well on the dancefloor back in '94. They were cool
because they felt like discovering new beats and new sounds and they
didn't worry too much about sounding 'IDM' because at that time it did
not really exist as such. They didn't worry about being hip-hop enough
either, which is probably the reason why they became so cool in the first
place.
I have a theory and it goes like this: once you can think up a name for a
genre, the genre is artistically dead. Why? Well, the moment people
start calling a genre by a name, there is a certain agreed-upon
stylistic element to the music that becomes it's defining property. At
that point, you cannot by definition be a style-X artist anymore without
sounding the part; e.g. if you don't sound like all the other drill 'n
bass acts, you're not a drill 'n bass act. Try this trick with your
favorite genre. The problem you described earlier:
quoted 1 line It seems like we've hit a lull in terms of good idm records coming out> It seems like we've hit a lull in terms of good idm records coming out
..is effectively the IDM genre fallling into this trap. Soon, there will
be only copycats. And why? Essentially it is your own fault :) Look at
this again:
quoted 1 line It seems like we've hit a lull in terms of good _idm_ records coming out> It seems like we've hit a lull in terms of good _idm_ records coming out
..so, basically, you are waiting for albums that sound more or less like
what you already know, at least enough to fit into your idea of what IDM
is, and yet at the same time you expect these records to be as fresh and
original as those early records back in '94? There is a contradiction
here, don't you agree?
Look for stuff that does _not_ sound IDM. Fuck IDM!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: component [mailto:component@mindstorm.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 8:45 AM
> To: Chris Henry; idm@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [idm] puppy (was: hidden forms 122...)
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> > Puppy's one of the only industrial artists from those days that still
> > drops my jaw. Meat Beat Manifesto, too. Nobody's really done it like
>
> > that since. Renegade Soundwave also falls into this category for me,
> > but I wouldn't consider it industrial.
>
> Renegade soundwave is fun stuff. I see them closer to Pop Will Eat
> Itself
> than industrial.
>
> > Rape and Honey comes close, still can't decide about 242 (too many
> > positive associations to be objective).
>
> Tyranny for You was a pretty amazing CD. The production was ultra tight.
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> I was kinda bummed when they went all murking on Evil Off and the other
> one that came out about the same time. I picked up the new 242 Ep and
> I REALLY didn't like it. Not sure what's up with that.
>
> > Can I get a shout out for Severed Heads?
>
> Umm.....
>
> > Along these lines, anybody interested in checking out some new
> > industrial should listen to Kill Memory Crash on Ghostly. It's the
> > first fresh stuff I've heard for a while. Perhaps the beginning of a
> > renaissance a la electroclash? Certainly worthy of it...
>
> Well it could happen we've surely got enough angst to go around...Crap
> economy,
> dubya's imperialism....
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>
> Rob!
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