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From: Media Spincycle = Fiction <mybadelf@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 18:58:08 -0700 (PDT)
quoted 14 lines < do you know what we call the holiday? it's called
>< do you know what we call the holiday? it's called
>"indepedence day." it's a celebration of the
>independence of the united states. you don't have to
>take a stance against imperialism to celebrate the
>united states' victory against england in the fight
>for sovereignty. >
>
>I never said you had to take the stance against
>imperialism to celebrate. The Guardian wrote an
>amusing article about it, not me. Nor did I imply that
>the American people are knowingly involved in
>Imperialism. If you are in the top 10% of the
>wealthiest or a high level Government official than
>you might be an imperialists...I don't know.
you said, "the irony is that it's an anti-imperialist holiday celebrated by an imperialist country." it is *not* an "anti-imperialist holiday." i'm not going to repeat what the holiday celebrates just because you're a fucking dope.
quoted 2 lines I merely brought up that the Guardian had some amusing
>I merely brought up that the Guardian had some amusing
>points. Go read the article, mate...
no thanks, chief. i have to read for my job and have plenty of worthwile material to get to.
quoted 3 lines I know the average joe in America is very clueless on
>I know the average joe in America is very clueless on
>history and politics, and knows very little about the
>world outside of the United States.
most any joe or jane *any place in the world* is a specialist neither in history nor in politics.
quoted 8 lines < myths are an important part of any culture and exist
>< myths are an important part of any culture and exist
>whether they are recognized by the state or not. >
>
>I think reality is also important, and people should
>be aware of the truth...and not just half-truths.
>Unfortunately, I think with the media consolidation
>that it will be harder and harder to know this in the
>future.
don't change the subject solely because you made some stupid remark about thanksgiving and have no rebuttal. or are you saying it will be "harder and harder" for the masses to learn about thanksgiving due to "media consolidation"? you know what, don't answer the question. do you like minor threat? one of my favorite lines from minor threat goes "i don't wanna hear it, know you're full of shit."
quoted 4 lines Societies should know their ugly truths as well as the
>Societies should know their ugly truths as well as the
>good side to keep things balanced and in check. And be
>able to know when their media and leadership are lying
>and pushing the country in the wrong direction.
word.
quoted 5 lines Matthew Herbert has some interesting picks to read on
>Matthew Herbert has some interesting picks to read on
>his site. One of his recommendations are from author
>Noam Chomsky, that's a good starting point.
>
>http://www.magicandaccident.com/suggestions/index.htm
noam chomsky is full of you-know-what, too. his work is a terrible place for anyone to start save those studying linguistics.
quoted 2 lines Now so there are no misunderstandings, I truly hope
>Now so there are no misunderstandings, I truly hope
>that everyone has a nice three day weekend.
thanks.
- sean
np: dimbiman - the vibration of v ep
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