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From:
Guillaume Grenier
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Date:
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 18:09:51 -0400
Subject:
Re: [idm] ATP (ae) track
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On 13/04/03 16:41, "Benjamin P. Tolchen" said in living color:
quoted 2 lines could someone post the name of the track, or hell, the> could someone post the name of the track, or hell, the > track itself if possible
It's indicated as "/]{- /](II) excerpt". It's a very curious track... and not terribly interesting, IMO. Mostly "traditional", thin-sounding drum sounds arranged in a stuttering fashion, arpeggios forming a single seventh-diminished chord (F#-A-C-Eb) -- which obviously evokes memories of "19 headaches" on the second Peel Session, but the two tracks are *far* from being close parents -- with the synth tone often swelling when bass notes are heard... and that's pretty much it. No other constituting elements. No discernable DSP treatments, and a limited and non evolving textural palette. It thus seems to me to be very early Autechre -- but since I have never heard the Basscadet EP and I'm far from being an Autechre expert/trainspotter, I can't be much more specific. I've done a (very) rapid early Autechre (Incunabula, Amber, Peel Session I, Tri Repetae) survey to try to trace back the origins of the ATP track, and what struck me was the absence of some sort of anchor melody (the arpeggio does not qualify), which is almost always present in early Autechre. Also, the randomness of the beats (absence of a groove) seem to clash with most early Autechre tracks. Those two traits seem more associated with later Autechre, but the elements identified in the earlier paragraph seem to weigh much more in the balance (towards early Autechre). Another thing that seems to separate early Autechre from the ATP track is the reliance on standard drum sounds. In most early Autechre tracks, there seems to be a tendency to use non-conventional percussion sounds to form the basis of the rhythmic track. In recent releases (I still haven't heard Draft 7.30, BTW -- waiting for the right moment), there seems to have been some kind of occasional return to traditional drum sounds, although treated with DSP operations. My hypothesis was thus that this was pre-Incunabula Autechre... But since I haven't heard any, this might be ludicrous... On another (related) topic, was the ATP3.0 compilation of tracks actually done by Autechre or was their role simply to choose the artists that would participate in the event? The notes say somewhere "Compiled as always by Barry Hogan of Foundation/ATP Recordings". Was he simply responsible for laying out the order of the tracks or did he have a more involved role and actually choose the tracks by the Autechre-chosen artists? I'm not sure if the compilation passes the test for me... Some tracks held my attention (Hecker's, in particular, IIRC, maybe others which escape me at the moment... which could in fact be a not-too-good sign), I found the Earth track (my first listen of their music) intriguing and I like the Bola track (but already had it)... so the jury's still out on this one.. /end rambling... must-stop-doing-things-to-avert-work-on-final-paper g. -- Guillaume Grenier - grenier.g@videotron.ca in space there is no north in space there is no south in space there is no east in space there is no west --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org