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From:
Adrien Capozzi
To:
Clint Anderson
Cc:
Juho Hietala , IDM List
Date:
Thu, 13 Jun 2019 16:20:31 -0700
Subject:
Re: IDM's tombstone
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Yeah the Rolling Stones are still active so I guess classic rock isn’t dead. Tbh I’m not even sure if that’s a valid analogy, I’m just being an ass. :) Adrien Capozzi https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/
quoted 98 lines On Jun 13, 2019, at 9:25 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:> On Jun 13, 2019, at 9:25 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > > well let's see > aphex, still around and releasing tracks... the orb, check... black dog, check.... boards of canada have been absent awhile but can hardly be called dead... > [x] autechre still active > [x] luke vibert > [x] squarepusher (i mean, probably, damogen furies is hardly ancient) > [x] b12 > > i mean if almost everyone on the original Artificial Intelligence compilation is still making music, can it be dead? > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 6:26 PM Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com <mailto:hietala@gmail.com>> wrote: > Yeah, it mixes well with techno and electro in general and this whole proliferation of the “sound” makes it a lot easier to toss some old DSP bangers in. The sound is kinda timeless too by now. I was just playing HAT’s DSP Holiday earlier today and it sounds just as fresh today as it did in 98. > > >> On 11 Jun 2019, at 19:35, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com <mailto:cexwell@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> gotta agree with Juho. way way less "LOL WHAT EVEN IS THIS" when you play an obscure idm track in public nowadays >> >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:33 PM Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com <mailto:hietala@gmail.com>> wrote: >> In my experience IDM is alive and well and people appreciate it in general more than they used to. I get way more response these days from IDM sets that I would in the past. Feels like the world is catching up to the early 00s sometimes. >> >> >> >>> On 11 Jun 2019, at 15:56, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com <mailto:laurent.knauth@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I agree that IDM didn't happen in a vacuum. >>> However, i also agree about «glitches and retrigs, weird jittery max/msp techniques and all kinds of» tools that wouldn't exist before, confering their unheard imprint on this music, even shaping it completely. >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:38 AM Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com <mailto:ransom.schafer@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> I often wonder then how this isn't considered idm >>> I even hear bits of house music on BGM >>> >>> YMO- 'Music Plans' >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WJ3BiJ5jg <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WJ3BiJ5jg> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 10:03 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> the thing is that, in my opinion, the ideas of IDM, much like drum and bass, exploded out into a hundred other genres, and you now hear people uses glitches and retrigs, weird jittery max/msp techniques and all kinds of trippy gear hacks, as commonplace musical elements in 'mainstream' music even >>> there's entire swaths of music that at one time wouldn't have had a label to go under and would have just been shelved as 'idm' in the 90s and now have their whole own sections / genres >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 1:28 PM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com <mailto:connor1higgins@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> "1992-1995, but still haunts us today despite 'braindance' being just a smidgen less conceited" >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 11:11 AM Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com <mailto:laurent.knauth@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> I find this thread quite amusing as i'm quite obsessed with the previous decade myself : 1983-1993. >>> The Depeche « Alan Wilder » Mode era. >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:40 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> 1993 - whenever hapbt dies >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 5:23 PM Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net <mailto:eric@explosive.net>> wrote: >>> "It's pronounced aw-tek-uhr" >>> >>> - Eric Sorenson - N45.569, W122.763 - http://twitter.com/ahpook <http://twitter.com/ahpook> - >>> >>> > On Jun 4, 2019, at 11:24 PM, Adrien Capozzi <a@adrien75.com <mailto:a@adrien75.com>> wrote: >>> > >>> > What dates would you put on IDM’s tombstone? >>> > Maybe: >>> > >>> > 1993 - 2003 >>> > >>> > What do you think? >>> > >>> > Also a what message would you put on there besides RIP? >>> > >>> > “These guys thought they were pretty clever.” >>> > or maybe >>> > “It was never a proper genre name anyway." >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Adrien Capozzi >>> > https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/ <https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/> >>> > >>> >> >