if you can explain to me how a group doesn't suffer while the individuals
in it are suffering, you'll have well and truly triumphed over both logic
and grammar
it sounds like a logical assertion, yet careful examination reveals a lack
of any actual hard logic
Clint Anderson
Systems Engineer
"Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings
On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 3:09 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
wrote:
quoted 48 lines He uses bits of this:
> He uses bits of this:
> https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/philosophy/new-years-letter/
> "A close reading of 20th century history indicates, as nothing else can,
> the horrors that accompany loss of faith in the idea of the individual. It
> is only the individual, after all, who suffers. The group does not suffer –
> only those who compose it. Thus, the reality of the individual must be
> regarded as primary if suffering is to be regarded seriously. Without such
> regard, there can be no motivation to reduce suffering and, therefore, no
> respite. Instead, the production of individual suffering can and has and
> will be again rationalized and justified for its supposed benefits for the
> future and the group."
>
> Discussing this is as difficult (and off topic here) as anything Peterson
> says or writes. He says all sorts of things that in isolation can seem
> reasonable, but it's always in service of one of his cockamamie conclusions
> that are ahistorical, wooly-minded and wrong, and yet irresistible to
> people of a particular turn of mind. Just this one quote above can appeal
> to all of us who regard ourselves as unique individuals, who want to
> determine our own path through life. But it is a buttress to a large
> argument that is misogynistic, reductive, and deeply silly. "The primary
> image for women is not the Divine Individual, because of the heavy burden
> they bear for reproduction."
>
> And once again Professor FroggyVoice has suckered me into spending more
> time than it is worthy of to deconstruct his idiocy. Damn him and his
> tweedy speciousness!
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 11:03 AM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Lol, which quote? Is it the one about taming your internal chaos dragon
>> by over-dissecting Disney classics?
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 8:38 AM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ...by including a big Jordan Peterson sample in a track on his new
>>> record "Udaya", not out yet.
>>>
>>> Why Wes why?
>>>
>>> ...and if you haven't heard Moon B, I'm intrigued by his stuff, which is
>>> pretty originally derivative. He's kind of in the middle of the styistic
>>> triangle of Com Truise, Boards Of Canada, and Vaporwave. Real nostalgia
>>> for an imaginary musical past.
>>>
>>>