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From:
Josh Steiner
To:
John Reading
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Date:
Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:19:59 -0800
Subject:
Re: [idm] Indie Ethics
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John Reading wrote:
quoted 5 lines That's not what he said.>That's not what he said. > >It's a legit discussion, but whether or not it's "Ok" to download music >for free, regardless of copyright laws, is another matter. >
absolutely. i agree, laws dont define morality. what i am arguing is that i find the current laws A) unenforcable in the face of new technology without severerly restricting our rights of free expression. B) immoral in that they provide near endless monopolies on ideas, whereas copyright was grudginly added (not as a right, mind you) to america's laws as a "nessesary evil". copyright is a restriction on other peoples rights of expression and hence i am extremely scepticle of them. there better be a very compelling defense for them, and believe me (i can dig up citations when i have more time) the reason copyright law was inacted was not so that artists could make money, but to encourage information sharing and hence enrich the public domain. this has been bastardized over time into what we now know. C) as the tools of expression merge with other media and technology more and more the enforcement of IP law becomes ever more orwelian. you have to look on the long term to see the full implications of the precendents we are setting now really mean, its not all about checking out the new britanney spears song, this stuff really impacts the future of free expression and thought.
quoted 3 lines I don't think copyright laws have anything to do with ripping off>I don't think copyright laws have anything to do with ripping off >labels. Copyright or not, they still should get paid. >
as do i, i support the artist i listen to. i would *much* rather be able to directly donate money to the artist/label i like for mp3s i get off of slsk, as i have no use for cd's, unfortunately few people seem to have embraced this idea yet. but indeed my desire for artists to get funded has little bearing on the morality of file sharing.
quoted 3 lines Besides, copyrights aren't meant for distribution issues as much as they>Besides, copyrights aren't meant for distribution issues as much as they >are for plagarism issues. >
i dont agree, they were very much put in place to prevent one publishing house from putting out another companies material without paying them. -- ____________________________________________________ independent u.s. drum'n'bass -- http://vitriolix.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org