"donna summer" <donnasummerwfmu@hotmail.com> wrote
quoted 2 lines Of course there are exceptions galore, but on the whole our little genere>Of course there are exceptions galore, but on the whole our little genere
>here has gotten downright dogmatic.
of course you're right essentially, given the modernist conceit
behind the music which values innovation, there's a staggering about
of conformity. really it's like any other musical genre, people
depend on conventions heavily.
but here's the thought I always have: to expect non-conformity with a
Genre is a contradiction. to define a genre is to pick out this this
this and that sounds like it's all doing the same thing, and slap a
label on it. so then what does it mean to then stand back and sniff,
'everyone's doing the same thing'?
like, if you define 'idm' as ONLY the stuff that sounds like old
autechre/BoC/aphex/etc (as some people apparently do) then you've
defined things in a way that leaves out the torrent of other music
going on that sprawls all over the place.
"Warren's Rectum" <idmlist@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 5 lines I can enjoy well produced conceptual> I can enjoy well produced conceptual
>art just as much, but from my point of view it seems EXTREAMLY hard to do
>without coming off as pretentious or even ridiculous. IDM, to me, seems to
>rely more on an exploration of sound, technique, and expression rather than
>social-political ideals, and current event commentary.
i find that to be an area where electronica could go. in different
ways, Moodymann, Theo Parrish, Ekkehard Ehlers and Thomas Brinkmann
have all produced music that successfully blends concepts with
sonically interesting music. those guys are all doing it more or less
in an 'art' kind of way, but even Boards of Canada have a bunch of
pop-like, amusing, conceptual concept in their work. so, i don't
know, I think if you're inclined to express yourself that way, it
hardly dooms you to coming off pretentious or ridiculous.
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