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From:
alan stewart
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wires
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Date:
Mon, 25 Nov 2002 20:00:10 -0800
Subject:
Re: [idm] Amon Tobin
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This string brings up a real conundrum for me... I appreciated Amon's set @ Bimbo's [SF] but I wasn't blown away with it- Dont get me wrong, had I been looking over his shoulder I guarantee I would have enjoyed it much more. The problem is that you go to see a live event as much for the performance aspect as for the music. You can project as many interesting visuals as you want - nothing can really compensate for the organic quality of seeing art created, or in the least, manipulated on the fly. From the audience's perspective, and this applies to DJs who produce the tracks they spin and loptop musicians in particular, there is really nothing to stop the performer from simply hitting the "play" button and kickin' it for the remainder. It wasn't until the day after the show that I spoke with amon, found out he is using final scratch. Had the audience known that, or better yet, had they projected a screenshot and/or over the shoulder perspective, an appreciation for the skill and immediate talent required to pull off a live set would have made for a much more engaging show. 2 cents, cheers alan ::::::::::::: alan stewart http://www.ROBOTSPEAK.com alan@robotspeak.com 415 554 1977 on 11/25/02 5:34 PM, wires at wires@xs4all.nl wrote:
quoted 34 lines Quoting Kewu (kewu@telus.net):> Quoting Kewu (kewu@telus.net): >> What happened to Amon Tobin? ... Prefuse ... absolutely ROCKED it ... >> I was expecting the same from Amon Tobin. This is what I was made to >> expect when I saw "Amon Tobin LIVE" on the flyer. I can't even tell >> you how dissappointed me and my compadred were. >> ... >> First of all, when Amon came on, they turned the system up around >> 15-20DB so that even in the VERY back of the enormous ballroom it was >> uncomfortably loud. >> ... > > Okey, that sucks, I allway bring earplugs and I also had to where them > in the venue where I saw him, but still. > > Apart from that I really disagree... I saw him in the melkweg, > netherlands, a little while ago and he was really awesome. He played > many tracks of his own and stuff like "do you know squarepusher". Apart > from just mixing the tracks he mashed them up here and there using > loops, fx and I dunno what else. All in all very nice dancable tracks, > in a great blend of different styles (drum+bass to squarepusher to fast > eletroisch beats to his own weird stuff). > > I also saw him on a Ninja Tune night about a year ago, and that was even > more amazing, him mixing techno with his older albums, arabic stuff, > drum and bass, mixing at 1/3 etc etc, really very nice. > > Maybe he had a bad night? > >> Second of all, he wasn't really doing anything more live than any dj >> does when mixing a set. He had records with time code mixing tracks on >> his laptop > > Yeah, that's stanton final scratch... and true, it's just mixing, but > where I went it wasn't advertised as ``LIVE'' or anything, just A.T.
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