quoted 12 lines In a message dated 10/30/02 9:49:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,>In a message dated 10/30/02 9:49:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>jwhite@ShoppersDrugMart.CA writes:
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>> Hello. I was just wondering where everyone sees IDM going in the near
>> future? I mean sound/genre - anything really. Just interested in hearing
>> some opinions.
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>to hell in a handbasket?
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>its becoming "genre" music now, like "industrial," "drum n bass," "house,"
>"punk" etc..
See, now despite what I said in my past post, this is what I'm not
sure about. Perhaps the moniker "IDM" will stick around, and the
different parts of it that DO fit into genres well (such as, say, the
"post-hop" stuff) will splinter off into its own genre, leaving the
"weird" stuff under the "IDM" name?
It's happened before. IDM used to be the name for quiet, glitchy
music, but now that's called "microsound." So now the microsound
stuff has its own name, whereas the stuff that's outside of it is
still referred to as "IDM."
"Techno" used to be the catch-all phrase for anything electronic,
sometimes with or without vocals, and some people still use it as
such, but it generally has a very well-defined genre that it fits
now. Is that bad? Well, not really -- it helps people know what to
expect that are looking for that, but also helps people avoid it if
they want. I love me some good IDM, but I would probably never buy a
record that was called (at least, by someone on this list) "techno."
Either it's too broad or it means detroit-style acidy techno.
It really wouldn't surprise me if some of the more "out there"
idm-genres split off and become their own "genre." I mean, the
hyper-noisy stuff like Venetian Snares is ages away from the melodic
Marumari stuff, and depending on what artists do and call themselves,
*something* is going to split them off.
The term "idm" has for many people lost any actual meaning, as much
of the stuff called "idm" hasn't been even remotely dance music
since, what, '97? :D It really wouldn't surprise me if stuff called
"idm" stuck around for years or decades, always on the edge of
electronic music, before the "genre monkeys" you speak of get ahold
of it.
Some of the artists will happily accept a genre label that's more
specific, as they probably care more about making good music than
necessarily sounding "new." Plaid would be a good example, as their
releases are ultimately rather similar and if a genre came about that
they fit into, you could probably lump all of their releases
(including black dog stuff, probably) into it. Some artists will end
up continually making new stuff, refusing to be easily classified
(such as Autechre) and I think those are the groups that will
continually be called just plain-jane IDM. Despite how unplain it is.
derek
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