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Noah Thorp
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Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:35:32 -0700
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Re: [idm] noise is the frontier?
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quoted 4 lines anyone think that noise is the final frontier of> anyone think that noise is the final frontier of > music? i'm looking way ahead..philisophically > speaking. Just throwing out some discussion- >
Did you say philosophically speaking? I think the sounds we commonly refer to as "noise" are undifferentiated sounds. In other words we consider those things that we have limited sensitivity to "noise". The transformation from noise to music requires a conscious willingness to adjust perception, or a gradual appreciation created by extended exposure. This conscious differentiation, eventually becomes intuitive. Through this process noise becomes music. Rock and Roll and Hip Hop were just noise to an older generation (not that I want to start a flame ware about how some people on this list hate Rock and Hip Hop :-). IDM can definitely be heard as "just noise" to the uninitiated. However, the transition to differentiating types of static (for instance) and hearing it as music will require more effort. This is because static typically does not contain a harmonic spectrum that is as organized as a sine wave or a guitar string. Cross-culturally harmonic and melodic musical materials have been derived from the Harmonic series. The sound of the harmonic series can be heard in the high notes (overtones) of digeradoos, Tuvan throat singing, and jaw harps. The vast majority of musical scales in the world were developed using these ubiquitous harmonic materials. Sounds that do not contain a clear harmonic series are typically thought of as "Percussion" and have a more complex waveform. The 20th century has seen the introduction of larger quantities of non-harmonic sounds in to the environment and our music reflects it. We are gaining familiarity with these sounds through constant exposure. In some ways we are living in the "Age of Percussion". One possible reason that we may gravitate towards making "noise music" is that natural sounds that had more harmonic content are no longer predominant. I think that non-harmonic sounds will be integrated in to music as the cityscape expands. It may remain this way until the sonic landscape changes once again to contain more harmonic sound. However, because of the difficulty of hearing non-harmonic sound as "music" these materials will continue to be integrated with harmonic materials... because that is what the physiology of the ear naturally gravitates toward. It could also be said that with the advent of computer music we will be able to use justly tuned intervals (whole number ratio harmonics) to create complex music that were not possible because of the previous limitations of our physical instruments. Both directions are interesting.... When predicting "the music of the future" it the question is not what music will come to be, but who and how many will be listening to it? Right now the music of the future appears to be some combination of Dave Mathews, Nelly, and Eminem... at least in terms of who and how many. As Donna pointed out, Noise music is the music of the past (circa 1913). It just happens to be iterating through culture more heavily right now. I actually do not expect there to be a large cultural shift to listening to exclusively non-harmonic tones because of the esoteric dedication to hearing differently that it would require. The harmonic series is intuitive heard. Noise music requires learning and effort. If you want to you can hear your current environment as music, but you will have to want to and learn how. I don't expect a large segment of the population to devote effort to this... I do expect a subset of the electronic community to iterating and evolving this concept for a subset of the future. Chrz, Noah www.listenlabs.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org