Yes, but, how many people also used a P2P to get a sample of
the album, discovered they liked it, and then went out and
bought it? It can also be seen as free promotion to the
artists, especially those who do not get much (if any) radio
support. I use kazaa to sample things I *may* like, and if
I do, I go to the store and purchase it. I have done this dozens
and dozens of times, and I doubt I am alone.
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>From: "reak what" <benelli3000@hotmail.com>
>To: idm@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [idm] music thievery
>Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:08:49 -0500
>
>>From: "Irene McC" <substar@iafrica.com>
>>Reply-To: substar@iafrica.com
>>To: idm@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: [idm] music thievery
>>Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:43:10 +0200
>>
>>Talking about 'mass storage' and MP3's as well as piracy, PLEASE
>>everybody, have a look at this excellently written, cogent article:
>>
>>http://www.janisian.com/article-internet_debacle.html
>>
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>excellent, well written-Wonderful point about the industry shooting itself
>in the foot by putting out shit music- how painfully true.
>
>but a bit off the mark on one issue::who does downloading REALLY hurt::me
>
>I am a member of a group that most people on this list are aware of, and
>have heard music from, and may or may not like our music.
>
>I will not name names, figure it out if you can. it is inconsequential
>
>We have sold 7000 and units since our record dropped in September. By
>"idm"
>standards, this is a shitload- several times more than what labels like
>Schematic, Planet Mu, and certain Warp artists sell-all highly respectable
>(and rightly so) labels and artists.
>
>Here's the rub-how many times have people approached me at a show or a even
>a restaurant and said, "dude, i love your record. i got it off soulseek
>and
>it's just great."
>
>Now, there's good AND bad in that. It's a beautiful thing that this guy is
>jamming my record. That is what I live for! That is why I make music!
>But-it is also why I live like a fucking cockroach, even though I have made
>a chunk of change on that record (that went right fucking back into the
>studio, mind you)
>
>Here's why::Downloading, while 1)important, 2)useful, 3)practical, 4)fun,
>takes money away from the SMALL artists the most. Metallica or Celine Dion
>might miss their 6 figures of loss against millions of $$ they have already
>made, but for me, the difference between several thousand records sold vs.
>being downloaded means several things::1)i won't have to fuck with waiting
>tables or data entry bullshit jobs (which i have to at the moment, until
>our
>next record drops) 2)i can spend more time dedicating myself to making the
>best possible music that i can make as a human being, and continue in my
>jihad to enrich people's lives with music, the same way the music that i
>love enriched my life. i'm not talking about driving a mercedes or
>whatever-that's bullshit. i'm talking about rent paid and ramen in the
>pantry-totally acceptable comfort level.
>
>so, from the standpoint of an established "underground" artist, downloading
>is both wonderful and horribly detrimental. If those 4000 (random number
>less than sales) people that downloaded my record (I have seen several
>posts
>to this group of people who have liked it but downloaded it-once again, no
>names mentioned) had bought it instead, then shit, you motherfuckers would
>already have another full length to listen to, if it matters at all.
>instead you'll just have to settle for an ep while we pour drinks for the
>fucking assholes in tha Benzeeeeezzzzzz and tha Bimmmaaaaaazzzzzzzz
>
>All in all, the people on this list have been good to me and my band-I AM
>NOT WHINING AT YOU ALL. you are on this list because you are a music
>lover,
>not just bullshit electronic music, but MANY DIFFERENT KINDS. So, to those
>who bought our record-God bless. those who downloaded it-no hard feelings
>at all-we will try to make our next record better, so that you might find
>it
>worthy of a purchase this time around.
>
>meditate on this, I will.
>
>hugs
>
>j
>
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