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nat hawks
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Thu, 27 Jun 2002 15:54:11 -0400
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Re: [idm] RE:originality in composition
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an obvious, but interesting, point to ad to this discussion is the idea that if you want to do something unlike anything before, you have to know what has gone before. if Aphex is going to create the 'next step' my man better damn well know what he is stepping beyond. by being learned in the past, he can clearly see what is missing, and what needs to be done, even the 'how' and 'why' come to light after much deliberation i'm sure. ... i very much enjoy the idea of a sound never heard before and what that does to expand the listener's understanding of limitations in general (i believe this is largely what the TRUE psychodelic musical movement was based on). -old man nat. ps. i'm thinking of picking up at the shop... -Daedelus:Invention -Mokira: Plee -Neina: Subconscious -SND: Tender Love -Bogdan: Samuri Math they all seem very strong to me, any opinions?
quoted 37 lines From: "jacob z." <jsz@eds.org>>From: "jacob z." <jsz@eds.org> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] RE:originality in composition >Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 12:18:13 -0700 (PDT) > > > >On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, ugly and mean wrote: > > > and who did Aphex study to learn his technique? > >lots of people. believe me. art does not come out of nowhere - all works >of art are influenced by what has gone before. truly we are standing on >the shoulders of giants, and that is the only way it can be. this is not >imitation, it's the process of creation. if you've ever heard any song, >it has already influenced any music you may write - even if you choose to >consciously write something that sounds completely different, it has still >influenced you to do this. > >some people might like to think of the genius-composer with a direct line >to god, his music beaming from outer space into his secret labratory were >he lives sequestered from all outside influence. this is a nice, romantic >notion, but it just isn't this way. there are no innovations that do not >build on previous innovations. > >yeah, i'm tired of saying "hey, this sounds like autechre." that's ok. i >don't have to listen to it, and plenty of other people might want to. and >a few of these clones will take what they've learned from autechre and afx >and go on to do something new, and that's enough peace of mind for me... > >j > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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