Well said Jeff...
to sum everyone's thoughts up...
Omar sucks
Omar is misunderstood
Omar is one hella-cool dude
I have never had issue with the man, in fact I have had rather insightful
discussions in the past...let's move on.
JS
quoted 65 lines From: Mxyzptlk <jpklein@telocity.com>
>From: Mxyzptlk <jpklein@telocity.com>
>To: Christopher Dilkus <cpdilkus@snip.net>,idm@hyperreal.org
>CC: Oways@msn.com
>Subject: Re: [idm] Tis Omar, but 1 outta 2 aint bad.....(HACK)
>Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 09:47:57 -0500
>
>At 01:14 AM 6/8/2002, Christopher Dilkus wrote:
>>Just to throw my $0.02 in, Omar and I have butted heads off-list a few
>>times, but I have to say the he genuinely loves music. He's never afraid
>>to try something new, or something old for that matter. He doesn't play
>>like he's an original IDM-head, but rather takes in all the sounds he can
>>and gives an honest opinion about what he experiences. More than I can say
>>for most.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>On Friday, June 7, 2002, at 06:35 PM, Omar Hackett wrote:
>
>My first "meeting" with Omar was an offlist, heated argument which went on
>for a good week - maybe two. That was several years back. Since then we
>have met face to face when I was in Chicago a few years ago. I have to say
>that sometimes he starts his own fires (he knows it and isn't always happy
>about it), but he says what he thinks and feels - point blank. He also
>knows what he likes but tries to go beyond and see what else is out there.
>He's genuine, whether you like you what see or not. That's more than I can
>say for everyone who drops a post on IDM-l.
> Additionally (having spent some time with him), he's a nice guy -
>respectful and decent. Being a smartass myself, I understand that he can be
>an easy target in this forum. I guess I would say that just because a
>target presents itself doesn't mean you should take aim. If you have an
>issue with him, there are ways to challenge which don't involve "the
>posture" and from my initial experiences in doing this with him, he'll
>treat you with the integrity you show him - even if you call him on the
>carpet (offlist).
>Another thing I might add is that in these internet "communities", the
>little most of know about each other subsists (for the most part) in text
>on a screen and some don't translate as well as others in this
>hermeneutically challenged format. There is more to any person than the
>decontextualized banter accessed via the inbox. It gets all-too-easy to
>dismiss people based on something they've written in haste, something
>they've possibly said in a way which wasn't the best way to say it,
>something they might wish they wouldn't have said. Elephants have nothing
>on email lists.
> This particular list has had a history of cynicism and posturing
>inculcated with it. I'm not trying to soapbox - I'm as jaded as the next
>person here and I take my humor where I find it as well. Sometimes it's
>important to get beyond the zeitgeist, draw back and see the part one plays
>in the trends which permeate these lists - especially keeping in mind that
>there are people behind the textual fronts that we all have and use. It
>seems like we should be able to deal with our differences with a bit more
>integrity without walking on eggshells and losing the edginess. Maybe not.
>Personally I'm more prone to lend my ear to someone who manages to post
>using an email address which they did not create as an alias for the
>purpose of engaging in flame wars. If you're going to post, at least have
>the balls to "show yourself". I always find it fascinating that people will
>take so much time and trouble to deal with an opinion or a person whom they
>ostensibly find less than worthwhile. Just my .02 .
>
> jeff
>
>
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