179,854Messages
9,130Senders
30Years
342mboxes

← back to listing · view thread

From:
Mxyzptlk
To:
Christopher Dilkus ,
Cc:
Date:
Sat, 08 Jun 2002 09:47:57 -0500
Subject:
Re: [idm] Tis Omar, but 1 outta 2 aint bad.....(HACK)
Msg-Id:
<5.1.0.14.2.20020608090156.01daf230@pop3.norton.antivirus>
In-Reply-To:
<0250E9C4-7AA7-11D6-AF83-0030656D4CB0@snip.net>
Mbox:
idm.0206.gz
At 01:14 AM 6/8/2002, Christopher Dilkus wrote:
quoted 10 lines Just to throw my $0.02 in, Omar and I have butted heads off-list a few>Just to throw my $0.02 in, Omar and I have butted heads off-list a few >times, but I have to say the he genuinely loves music. He's never afraid >to try something new, or something old for that matter. He doesn't play >like he's an original IDM-head, but rather takes in all the sounds he can >and gives an honest opinion about what he experiences. More than I can say >for most. > >Chris > >On Friday, June 7, 2002, at 06:35 PM, Omar Hackett wrote:
My first "meeting" with Omar was an offlist, heated argument which went on for a good week - maybe two. That was several years back. Since then we have met face to face when I was in Chicago a few years ago. I have to say that sometimes he starts his own fires (he knows it and isn't always happy about it), but he says what he thinks and feels - point blank. He also knows what he likes but tries to go beyond and see what else is out there. He's genuine, whether you like you what see or not. That's more than I can say for everyone who drops a post on IDM-l. Additionally (having spent some time with him), he's a nice guy - respectful and decent. Being a smartass myself, I understand that he can be an easy target in this forum. I guess I would say that just because a target presents itself doesn't mean you should take aim. If you have an issue with him, there are ways to challenge which don't involve "the posture" and from my initial experiences in doing this with him, he'll treat you with the integrity you show him - even if you call him on the carpet (offlist). Another thing I might add is that in these internet "communities", the little most of know about each other subsists (for the most part) in text on a screen and some don't translate as well as others in this hermeneutically challenged format. There is more to any person than the decontextualized banter accessed via the inbox. It gets all-too-easy to dismiss people based on something they've written in haste, something they've possibly said in a way which wasn't the best way to say it, something they might wish they wouldn't have said. Elephants have nothing on email lists. This particular list has had a history of cynicism and posturing inculcated with it. I'm not trying to soapbox - I'm as jaded as the next person here and I take my humor where I find it as well. Sometimes it's important to get beyond the zeitgeist, draw back and see the part one plays in the trends which permeate these lists - especially keeping in mind that there are people behind the textual fronts that we all have and use. It seems like we should be able to deal with our differences with a bit more integrity without walking on eggshells and losing the edginess. Maybe not. Personally I'm more prone to lend my ear to someone who manages to post using an email address which they did not create as an alias for the purpose of engaging in flame wars. If you're going to post, at least have the balls to "show yourself". I always find it fascinating that people will take so much time and trouble to deal with an opinion or a person whom they ostensibly find less than worthwhile. Just my .02 . jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org