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Re: FW: [idm] Scorn (was Godflesh)
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I don't know how _Cold Summer_ can be discussed without reference to Lustmord, whose releases such as _Heresy_ and _The Place Where the Black Stars Hang_ have clearly been a major influence on Mick Harris's Lull project. Lustmord also did a very evocative droney drifty dark ambient collaboration with Robert Rich called _Stalker_ (inspired by the Tarkovsky movie of the same name), which might appeal to Lullophiles. Nothing much to do with idm, but it seemed worth mentioning. alan/beyond...sound Quoting Jason Cole <Jason.Cole@DigitalMediaWorks.com>:
quoted 129 lines -----Original Message-----> > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Cole > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:08 PM > To: 'production unit' > Subject: RE: [idm] Scorn (was Godflesh) > > I can't seem to find out what label the Lull releases were on on the net. > And I don't have the cds with me. But it seems like there's a bunch of info > about Lull on http://www.mickharris.net > Lull is so beautifully dark. I listen to one of the cds I own almost every > night before I go to sleep. > Rock on. > > Jason > > Lull - Cold Summer > > Harris already had two Lull efforts under his belt by the time Cold Summer > surfaced, but this packed-to-the-brim disc was easily the pinnacle of his > efforts up to that point, four lengthy songs that more than anything else > justified the "isolationism" tag that surfaced at the time to describe > chilled, cool ambient. Comparison points to the work of Thomas Kvner and > Main in particular work here, and in some respect Lull finds a particular > balance between both, combining the sense of hushed alien landscapes from > the former with the obsessive focus on rhythm from the latter. It's easy > enough to hear the connection to Scorn as well, with the chief difference > being the lack of any drums or conventional rhythm loops, but with the > focus > strictly and solely on the slowly evolving textures and looped tones > instead > of beats, Lull achieves its own identity instead of simply being a Scorn > remix, say. As much as the album title, the song names capture the > atmospheres at play -- "Slow Fall Inward," "Lonely Shelter," "Long Way > Home," "Lost Sanctum." The songs don't start and stop so much as solely > waft > in and drift away, steady and slow progressions that float like ghosts. > It's > the weird, nagging rhythms almost buried in the flow of drones and muffled, > stretched-out chimes and rings, the rising and falling of tones rather than > drum hits, which provide the core to the tracks, making the experience more > than just background music. Listening almost forces a hush on potential > listeners, shot through as the album is with just enough potential threat. > It's one heck of a long way from the hyperspeed blur of the earliest Napalm > Death records, to be sure, but Cold Summer demonstrates clearly how Harris > is very much the master of extremes. ~ Ned Raggett, All Music Guide > > -----Original Message----- > From: production unit [mailto:productionunit@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:34 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.org; Jason.Cole@DigitalMediaWorks.com > Subject: [idm] Scorn (was Godflesh) > > I can't recommend any Godflesh - haven't heard any since my misguided and > unshorn youth - but I second the props to Mick Harris. Like the 'flesh, he > came out of the Earache/Grindcore scene in the UK, but by some of the > accounts here Godflesh returned to it. > He's extremely diverse, doing the fucked-up dub dubby/edgy hip hop thing > with Scorn, and a million other side projects. > The best Scorn things I have are 'Greetings from Birmingham' on Hymen, and > the early single 'White Irises Blind' on Earache, the second of which you > might like if you're into the older Godflesh stuff (from what I can > remember > > of 'Streetcleaner'). > Saw him performing with Surgeon as Certain Beyond All Reasonable Doubt a > few > > years back, and it was mighty good - just massive black sheets of heavy > noise, with a tiny undercurrent of barely detectable, almost orchestral > tonality. I don't know of any releases by them, though. > Also, I just got an album of industrial drum and bass he did on Quartermass > > as Quoit. It's very similar to the things he did with Eraldo Bernocchi on > what I think was the Quantum 484 label, and stuff I believe he was > affiliated to on the Possible Recs label. Not for the faint hearted. > And the Autechre remix of Scorn is superb! > As you can tell, I like him. A lot. > > What label is the Lull stuff on? > > Cheers, > Papa D > > > marciablaine.cjb.net > available: > s/t e.p. on Dalriada > inclusion on Benbecula "Music Volume 2" > The Marcia Blaine School Disco Vol. 1 > forthcoming: > inclusion on Law & Auder "I Am:Bient" > inclusion on Struktur compilation "Red Zero Seven" > > > >Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:42:08 -0700 > >To: "'Albers, Brian'" <BAlbers@PremiereRadio.com>, idm@hyperreal.org > >From: Jason Cole <Jason.Cole@DigitalMediaWorks.com> > >Subject: RE: [idm] r.i.p. godflesh > >Message-ID: <9C8BF7974FCDD411B2D500A0CC51B7591DD5C4@CORESERVER> > > > >------_=_NextPart_001_01C1F06E.5A08F750 > >Content-Type: text/plain > > > >Along the same lines. Anyone on this list into Scorn? I believe that it's > >Mick Harris from Napalm Death and some other guy. Really dark dub type > >stuff. A little less intense than Godflesh. Also, Mick Harris has an > >ambient > >project called Lull. Super dark ambient music. I dig it. > >Sucks that Godflesh broke up. I got my friend's copy of Songs of Love and > >Hate. Never got to give it back to him before he passed away. Can anyone > >suggest a few other Godflesh albums for me to check out? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Jason > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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