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Tue, 23 Apr 2002 12:48:09 -0400
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Re: [idm] idm girls
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I'd also like to add to the list of names: neotropic neutral nic endo mira calix zipperspy And mention that Hanin Elias has started a label under the DHR umbrella dedicated to female artists, check the DHR website for more info, can't remember the name. There's actually some pretty fun writing on this subject on that site as well. Destroy 2000 years of culture. SOZER.SHT http://www.wearechangeagent.com
quoted 96 lines From: Aboredbowler@aol.com>From: Aboredbowler@aol.com >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] idm girls >Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:31:58 EDT > >i think it's a social, political and creative imperative that there be a >group >dedicated to female involvement in electronic music, and specifically idm. >while it may seem to divide and make a distinction between "male" and >"female" music, i think there is a very valid difference between the two. >i think that idm in particular needs to have a community which fosters, >supports, encourages and nurtures female creativity (whether through >listening beneath the radar, or producing music) because it is a field of >music which is dominated by men more than any other than i can think >of. idm is not as conventionally marketable as other forms of electronic >music... you don't buy the new autechre because it's got a cover which >depicts a fine ass ho in a thong with fifty cent pieces over her nipples-- >you buy it because you know it's going to be innovative... whearas, for >instance, when filing through the myriad house mix compilations-- if >you're not searching for a particular dj or you're just the average joe >music >buyer-- you might just be persuaded to pick the record with the scantily >clad women depicted on the cover. >check p. sherburne's webzine this week for an article about this: >http://www.neumu.net/needledrops > the female image is used to sell >more products than anything else in the world, yet women represent a >disproportionate minority of those who produce the goods we buy.... (sorry >if this is too tangential, i promise i'm winding my way back on topic). >when you think of computers and who use them, odds are you imagine some >computer geek, a specifically male archetype... women are associated with >more intimate and/or acoustic instruments (but firstly, they're associated >with >a voice). these stereotypes are inaccurate, there is a wide array of >female >idm producers out there... sadly, i can think of only a handful off the top >of my >head: >laub/antye greie fuchs (yes, laub has a male member too) >nicole elmer >leila >swims with dolphins >chicks on speed (hopefully crawling out from behind the shadows of their >producers) >peaches (sex sells, eh?) >noriko tujiko >bjork (never given the production credit she deserves) >blectum from blechdom > >and that's really all i can think of. i'm not as underground as the >undergroundest >of you, but i do keep abreast of what's out there in a not insignificant >way... i can >assure you i can think of a virtual googolplex more male artists out there >at >any rate. > >hmm... this is quite fragmented (but so is thought, right?), i apologize, >it's 5AM ;). > >women usually have different things to express than men do. that's not to >say >that the two genders never intersect creatively, nor is it to imply that >men >and >women cannot identify with one anothers' music either. women are >underdiscussed >on this list, women are underrepresented at shows, record stores, in the >press, etc... >these are reasons why a community dedicated to female involvement in the >scene >is a good idea. it's not to set women and men apart delibrately... it's to >give women >a chance at the same sort of attention that men are awarded (sometimes 100 >times >a day) on this list, to reach out to women producers lacking a female >community >to discuss their music with and to use as a resource, to pursue alternate >avenues >of thought amongst the babble of ones and zeroes and x's and y's so >pervasive >on >the web. >interested females ought to participate... >the only two resources i know about on the web are >the list that was referred to at the beginning of this thread: >idm girls >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/idmgirls/ >and >http://pinknoises.com >get up and do something. > >suspiciously male, >gregory > >
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