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Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:31:58 EDT
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Re: [idm] idm girls
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i think it's a social, political and creative imperative that there be a group dedicated to female involvement in electronic music, and specifically idm. while it may seem to divide and make a distinction between "male" and "female" music, i think there is a very valid difference between the two. i think that idm in particular needs to have a community which fosters, supports, encourages and nurtures female creativity (whether through listening beneath the radar, or producing music) because it is a field of music which is dominated by men more than any other than i can think of. idm is not as conventionally marketable as other forms of electronic music... you don't buy the new autechre because it's got a cover which depicts a fine ass ho in a thong with fifty cent pieces over her nipples-- you buy it because you know it's going to be innovative... whearas, for instance, when filing through the myriad house mix compilations-- if you're not searching for a particular dj or you're just the average joe music buyer-- you might just be persuaded to pick the record with the scantily clad women depicted on the cover. check p. sherburne's webzine this week for an article about this: http://www.neumu.net/needledrops the female image is used to sell more products than anything else in the world, yet women represent a disproportionate minority of those who produce the goods we buy.... (sorry if this is too tangential, i promise i'm winding my way back on topic). when you think of computers and who use them, odds are you imagine some computer geek, a specifically male archetype... women are associated with more intimate and/or acoustic instruments (but firstly, they're associated with a voice). these stereotypes are inaccurate, there is a wide array of female idm producers out there... sadly, i can think of only a handful off the top of my head: laub/antye greie fuchs (yes, laub has a male member too) nicole elmer leila swims with dolphins chicks on speed (hopefully crawling out from behind the shadows of their producers) peaches (sex sells, eh?) noriko tujiko bjork (never given the production credit she deserves) blectum from blechdom and that's really all i can think of. i'm not as underground as the undergroundest of you, but i do keep abreast of what's out there in a not insignificant way... i can assure you i can think of a virtual googolplex more male artists out there at any rate. hmm... this is quite fragmented (but so is thought, right?), i apologize, it's 5AM ;). women usually have different things to express than men do. that's not to say that the two genders never intersect creatively, nor is it to imply that men and women cannot identify with one anothers' music either. women are underdiscussed on this list, women are underrepresented at shows, record stores, in the press, etc... these are reasons why a community dedicated to female involvement in the scene is a good idea. it's not to set women and men apart delibrately... it's to give women a chance at the same sort of attention that men are awarded (sometimes 100 times a day) on this list, to reach out to women producers lacking a female community to discuss their music with and to use as a resource, to pursue alternate avenues of thought amongst the babble of ones and zeroes and x's and y's so pervasive on the web. interested females ought to participate... the only two resources i know about on the web are the list that was referred to at the beginning of this thread: idm girls http://groups.yahoo.com/group/idmgirls/ and http://pinknoises.com get up and do something. suspiciously male, gregory