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From:
disko dali
To:
EggyToast ,
Date:
Fri, 19 Apr 2002 13:44:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:
Re: [idm] IDM concerts ?? @ GLITCH, NYC
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EggyToast <eggy@eggytoast.com> wrote: At 02:17 PM 4/19/2002 -0500, you wrote:
quoted 3 lines Some reasons to see a live laptop show...>Some reasons to see a live laptop show... > >so what! An artist shows up and hits the space bar on his/her laptop.
An artist that I'm paying money to see specifically. Not to go to a party with some good music. If it's billed like a rock show, with opening acts and headliners, it should *at least* be structured like one, with the artists visible and the center of the act. Otherwise, it should be billed differently, such as saying "music, good drinks, some food, and Autechre!"
quoted 1 line You show up and:>You show up and:
I don't want to come off as an asshole by parsing your list, but I wanted to address some points you brought up.
quoted 1 line 1) you might get a crack at some otherwise unavailable merch.>1) you might get a crack at some otherwise unavailable merch.
I personally see this as a perk to a live show, but hardly the reason to attend (and definitely not the #1 reason). Why a $4 t-shirt with, apparently, $16 worth of ink on it is justification for a poor live performance is beyond me :D
quoted 2 lines 2) you might get a chance to talk to the artist>2) you might get a chance to talk to the artist >3) you might meet guys/girls
These are great reasons to go to a show. I've always liked being able to see the artist I paid to go see, and be like "huh, they're not so weird after all." And it's nice to see who else is in the local "IDM community." Granted, they're usually dweeby shy types, which hinders the whole "meeting" thing, but at least they're some fresh faces.
quoted 2 lines 4) you to hear music you already like or love played on a sound system you>4) you to hear music you already like or love played on a sound system you >would never or could never own.
*ahem* Perhaps the local venues here are not representative of venues in other parts of the world, but First Avenue (in Minneapolis) is pretty famous, and their sound system is simply loud. Sure, it sounds decent loud, but all the shows I've seen there and at other venues in the area are just loud for the sake of loud. They distort, they fuzz and pop, and if they're the epitome of quality, I have some land in alaska to sell you.
quoted 1 line 5) add to that the social aspect of it>5) add to that the social aspect of it
Unless they're all dweeby introverts :)
quoted 3 lines 6) it forces you (or should, anyway) to get out on the dance floor and enjoy>6) it forces you (or should, anyway) to get out on the dance floor and enjoy >yourself... something you are not likely to do in the privacy of your own >home
Your other points are valid, but this I do not see. As has been stated by other people, not everyone enjoys music by dancing, and a lot of people bop around their bedroom but are rather reserved in public. Especially those dweeby introverts. I personally would rather have some seating areas rather than a huge sprawling dance floor. Sure, you can fit more people into an open space, but are IDM shows that popular? Autechre will fill a small room simply out of curiosity's sake, but there's no reason they shouldn't be able to book smaller venues that have seating. Maybe it's just that the local promoters in the Minneapolis area are ass. derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- with lather thingy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax