well i'd have to strongly disagree about the live show
aspect. it could be a mechanical robot triggered to
set off fireworks or pyro and the like. i.e. h-gun
labs. i see no problem with that.
and this may be set in stone but i feel the word
intelligent dance music did not start with aphex twin.
more so kraftwerk and older artists. disagree all you
want it won't change my mind.
now again, i'd like to see more artists going off in
bigger ways, louder sounds. not only abstract beats
but 4x4's, 16th's and other styles as well. to me
intelligent dance music is ever changing, not stuck in
a rut catagorized to a few artists.
older things that come to mind, micro chip league,
front 242(still breaking ground imo), wire, fla, etc
etc,
various electronic acts, techno related. industrial
related.
--- Jc105776@aol.com wrote:
quoted 93 lines There's only a few electronic artists that can pull
> There's only a few electronic artists that can pull
> it off live. I really
> enjoyed Aphex Twin's live shows back in the day.
> Really raw and really live.
> Even when he started using laptops live (and he was
> the first), it was new,
> and he added some dancing bears, female
> bodybuilders, and midgets to the mix.
>
>
> I also was in London for the WARP rave last fall,
> and that was actually a
> mind blowing experience. The Brits really get into
> their music, and people
> were all dancing and screaming and it created a huge
> amount of positive
> energy. Seeing Plaid/Anti-Pop Consortium/AFX live
> in London and comparing
> the same experience in the states is totally
> different. The crowd just
> dances like they just don't care...and are totally
> in their music. It's
> incredibly infecting, and you feel like doing
> something...even if it isn't
> dancing. People in the states seem like they're
> bored elitist music geeks
> and just sit around...
>
> Almost every "IDM" show back here in the states has
> been lame for a while
> now. A few hednodders and everyone staring at the
> dude with a laptop (who's
> ripping off autechre or aphex anyways). I thought I
> really got jipped when I
> saw AE live last spring. I had heard of their huge
> amount of samplers,
> analog synths, and modified gear they'd bring live,
> and had waited to see
> them for 6 years. All they had was a couple of G4
> laptops... REALLY
> unimpressive. I was just recently dragged out to
> see Hrvratski live, and
> must say that it was just like any of the other
> shows I've seen for the last
> 2-3 years.
>
> Another problem is that all this music is sounding
> the same. Almost every
> guy either has to either use this deliberite DSP
> fuckery to sound like
> Autechre, or some cheesy video-gamey melodies or
> samples to be funny(a la RDJ
> Album). I hope some people really end this era of
> laptop boringness, or
> electronic music will be heading nowhere fast.
>
> All I can say is that back in the day, electronic
> music was cool live.
> Kraftwerk had a real intense live show. Ministry
> knew how to kick major ass.
> Nine Inch Nails put on quite an incredible show
> (I'd rather see him express
> something while playing to DATS than fucking geek
> out on laptops). Depeche
> Mode and Meat Beat Manifesto brought modular gear
> and operated on analog
> seequencers live! Skinny Puppy had huge epic live
> dramas. The Last Rights
> show was simply incredible... Nivek Ogre pulled off
> objects from a huge
> revolving tree, while we could view his experiences
> in the cyberhelmet on
> screen... I could go on and on about how this was
> better live... Now some
> kids want to tell me that these laptop shows are
> cool?
>
> Maybe I'm a bit old school, but I think these laptop
> shows are degrading. I
> write electronic music on a laptop since I'm a
> travelling college student,
> but the last thing I'll do is play out on it. I'd
> think the only way I'd
> play live is by taking a toilet to the middle of the
> stage while wearing some
> geeky glasses and taking a huge shit while operating
> some software on my
> laptop.
>
> -David
>
>
>
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