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Fri, 19 Apr 2002 01:49:08 -0700 (PDT)
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Re: [idm] IDM concerts - performance vs home listening
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not exactly IDM - but close enough: the prodigy have got it right if yer gonna play music that makes you want to dance (I "DANCE" M) then they have the right formula if you make chin-scratching music ("INTELLIGENT" DM )(sic) then the stage presence isnt really required so much a la autechre live shows. for this reason i find IDM pretty fucking boring live, and prefer to listen to it at home. if im in a club, i like to have a few beers and jump about. that might not be the general list consensus - but i think most people feel the same. --- "... hellothisisalex ..." <mark@hellothisisalex.com> wrote:
quoted 89 lines Hello,> Hello, > > As a performer this is the kind of question that > seems to pop into my own > head every once and a while--what can I do that is > entertaining for myself > and the audience but allows me to create and perform > electronic music in a > live setting? > > Something that occurred to me recently was how much > of this debate over > 'live' performance rests on expectations carried > over from rock and pop (and > hiphop) concerts into electronic shows. It seems > that the more successful > shows in IDM draw on resources from outside IDM to > make their shows > engaging. But could it be that there is something > about that use of > computer that alienates people? A computer is a two > way connection between > a person and a machine, with both interacting (to > some degree) with each > other. The computer is designed to demand your > attention in a manner so > wholly different from that of most other instruments > that it almost seems as > though the audience is left out of the equation. > Perhaps the audience feels > that the performer isn't really 'there' as in > engaging the audience, etc. > So maybe this is a question of presence and > absence--how much presence is > demanded of the performer? > > I would say that 99.9% the presence required depends > on the setting. Some > people don't like to dance and would rather listen. > Some performers would > rather have people listen than dance. For example: > the Autechre show > mentioned; Radiohead has been known to ask people to > not mosh at shows, etc. > There is apparently a two-way communication between > the audience and the > performer to be maintained, and maybe the problem at > a lot of IDM shows is > that the audience isn't sure what the performer > expects of them, and vice > versa. I would say that musicians writing music for > listening are asking > people to listen, whether they like that or not. > The audience doesn't have > to comply, but they are being asked. If a performer > is engaging the > audience in a blatant manner (ala Cex), the audience > knows they are being > engaged. > > I don't have any answers to this solution, but I > would also say that it can > be disheartening for some musicians when the > audience doesn't understand the > 'unwritten rules' of a performance. All > performances have them (picture Cat > Power playing to an audience--should the audience > listen quietly or jump > about madly because they are so driven?) and some > performances maybe just > need to articulate them better. The first step I > think I would take if I > was a laptop artist would be to not perform raised > up on a stage or in a > position to be watched. Beyond that, I have no > idea. > > cheers > Mark & Melissa > hellothisisalex > www.hellothisisalex.com / > records.hellothisisalex.com > mp3s at > www.raw42.com/cgi-bin/featuredartist.pl?artist=213 > mark@hellothisisalex > > > >
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