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christopher
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Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:46:40 -0800 (PST)
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[idm] RE: Reynolds on IDM in 2001
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"I don't think the utilities *are* instruments(usually). As I've mentioned on this newsgroup before, I believe that they're more akin to filters in Photoshop. Often times these tools are more like the fuzzbox or delay pedal a guitarist uses." "Perhaps audio is now suffering from a bit of "Star Wars" fever at this point, all wrapped up in special effects and having difficulty saying anything really interesting." ** this is true. and the photoshop filter analogy has been made before: -- Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 11:26:49 -0400 From: Dave Walker <marmoset@mich.com> To: idm mailing list
quoted 1 line okay okay, i give up. what's the DSP plugin?> okay okay, i give up. what's the DSP plugin?
If you've ever used Photoshop (or a similar program) for graphics, you've used the various plugins for sharpening, blurring, distorting, whatever the pixels on screen. Lots of audio software these days (ProTools, for example) allows you to, in a similar fashion, do transformations on recorded audio. DSP stands for Digital Signal Processing. Remember all those horrible CD covers that were basically photos that someone's little sister had taken, with about a dozen Photoshop filters applied haphazardly to them? Remember after a while that people came to their senses and realized that this stuff wasn't really impressing anyone who'd ever sat down in front of a photo editing application for a couple of minutes? Welcome to a big chunk of IDM in 1999. -- Mr. Reynolds: "But like the legion of IDM producers he's influenced, James seems paradoxically trapped by the "infinite possibilities" offered by today's software and plug-ins (the computer-music equivalent of guitar pedals), resulting in infinitesimally detailed tweakage, but no song-shapes or moodscapes that actually leave an imprint in your memory, let alone your heart." ** the problem now is that afx is not who i think should be being dissed on. there are so many opinions about the new afx album. when it came out there were 1-star ratings in all the magazines and people had listened to it once perhaps. there was talk elsewhere, here maybe, can't remember, about it sounding very -'demo-y' and 'unpolished', which means it wasn't ultra-DSP-ified (which would make sense, he purposefully is not focusing on DSP). but now it is called a DSP-wank. i feel afx and squarepusher and autechre (the 3 guys reynolds mentioned) are using the new technology for their own purposeful purposes. they really know what they are doing. i would like it if more people tried to understand it opposed to dissing everything by the 'established artists' (why is there the idea that they all have forgotten how to make good music rather than they are getting closer and closer to [or are just still close to] what they want? why is confield still called "ultra-abstruse" - once you hear it a few times everything is expected; you get used to it). then if they don't like the feelings it gives or whatnot, good, but to say it doesn't give feelings...? while he says "no song-shapes or moodscapes that actually leave an imprint in your memory, let alone your heart" as his conclusion or whatnot, all of the songs on the latest albums by these guys do just that. they contain some intense songs; how can i not remember them? while i'm here i want to remind people to try out freeform's latest "..vietnam & china" and phthalocyanine's on planet-mu. there's something happening! i wonder if the new Boards will be in unfaves2002.htm? also is it me or is the new global goon not as fun as he is usually? christopho __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org