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Mon, 28 Jan 2002 23:37:34 -0800
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[idm] Jazz (OT)wasRE: [idm] Yo Guys and Gals---Help on this one.....
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I am gonna need all the help I can get on this one..... I need the best shit in these musical veins:(I know its subjective, but the more suggestions the merrier)... Jazz-or Jazz influenced and SOOOOO broad a category, I'll try to focus on drummers or just great stuff: for earlier swinging check out the early big bands like chick webb's (an amazing drummer) and then there's duke ellington, fletcher henderson and count basie for slower less beat driven stuff. Later on you get faster more complicated stuff like charlie parker and dizzy guilespie doing bebop. My personal favorite from this general era is thelonious monk. He's an amazing piano playing who composed some the most complex jazz ever made (check out "brilliant corners") a little later comes miles davis, whose later fusion stuff kicks ass, and john coltrane, whose drummer during the early years, Elvin Jones has been compared to squarepusher (this is almost on topic) or the other way around rather, for the similar amount of complexity in their work. Later on you get free jazz by the likes of ornette coleman, coltrane evolved into playing free, roswell rudd and bunch of other guys. I'm not sure when peter brotzmann came on to the scene but his recent work is completely insane. Most people find free jazz unlistenable, and not very free or happy sounding , but don pullen's work really has a joyful freedom to it even though it's a little more constrained by tradition. As for people working now check out susie ibarra. She's a great drummer but I don't know if she ever learned how to keep time. She just puts up these wild walls of sound with a just a drum kit. I don't know of any recordings of just her solo playing and the album she put out on tzadik has hardly any of her drumming but she has a live album out with some other drummer that i've heard good things about. Speaking of tzadik, if you haven't checked out John Zorn, look into naked city for everything influenced music and masada for jazz combined with traditional jewish music. Sorry I couldn't suggest many specific albums, my jazz record collection's pretty sad but I've heard a lot. Hope I was helpful. -Peter