also very curious about that.
what would Mira Calix say? Holly Herndon?
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From: Lee Swagerty <leeswagerty@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:21 PM
To: nat hawks
Cc: Juho Hietala; Zombiefly; 22tape; IDM List
Subject: Re: beatwife podcast
This thread is hilarious.... and yeah most activity on the list in awhile.
If only there was a woman to voice an opinion — but nope, just a sausage fest haha.
— Lee
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 4:10 PM, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com<mailto:natbot@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Is this name 'beatwife' not an example of direct misogyny?
This is a community, and within one's own community is a great place to start.
I went 'personal' rather quickly, totally fair... too quickly. I was just more outraged that others took the 'just don't buy the album' approach.
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From: Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com<mailto:hietala@gmail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 3:32 PM
To: nat hawks
Cc: Zombiefly; 22tape; IDM List
Subject: Re: beatwife podcast
fair enough, i think your point might go over better with less attaching your own current situation to it which obviously affects your interpretation of someone’s silly stage name. it’s quite a lot of assuming. just saying it’s distasteful is quite enough i think; by all means mail him if you like to but don’t assume other people are as outraged as you are. personally i’m more worried about the direct misogyny, sexism and homophobia happening around us so the whole issue of someone’s dumb distasteful name seems a little silly to me
On 25 Mar 2018, at 19:45, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com<mailto:natbot@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Agreed. Total slippery slope.
But Beat wife is literally saying punching a woman in the face. Literally. Yes, I get the pun. I'm not impressed.
I'm no saint. My friends and I used to have an in-house joke band called "sucky fucky". We burned one CD-R and cut n paste Asian porn photos on it. We thought we were hilarious. I'd like to think I'm wiser now.
My point is, apologies if I came off as 'virtuous,' but I was trying to make a point.
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 25, 2018, at 1:35 PM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com<mailto:zombiefly@gmail.com>> wrote:
they (he/record company/magazine etc) already know it's not ok..... or do you think your disgust will be the trigger to the dawning realisation of his mistake? o_O
it's a name. he isn't beating wives. it's controversial. on purpose. he won't care if you object, i'm sure there have been objections since 2010 or whenever he started with it.