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From:
Dustin Beall
To:
22tape
Cc:
Zombiefly , Juho Hietala , IDM List
Date:
Sun, 25 Mar 2018 09:49:44 -0700
Subject:
Re: beatwife podcast
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how about some cool music guys https://stuntrock.bandcamp.com/album/regret-instruction- manual-issue-one-questions-and-answers-for-the-insecure-youth On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 9:47 AM, 22tape <22tape@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 116 lines Don't give provocateurs oxygen by acknowledging their existence, or else> Don't give provocateurs oxygen by acknowledging their existence, or else > they win, and even become president. Treat provocateurs like you would a > child who is throwing a tantrum-- ignore them. They hate that... and > eventually shut up. > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 9:42 AM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote: > >> in all the years i've been on this list, i've never ever seen anything as >> pathetic as this particular email thread. >> Emailing him to change his name? you're fucking kidding right? holy shit. >> close yourself down immediately, nat hawks >> >> On 25 March 2018 at 17:40, Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> dude. don’t be a self righteous dick. >>> >>> >>> On 25 Mar 2018, at 18:34, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> (SORRY ABOUT MULTI-POSTING, but got a weird bounce-back email and wanted >>> to make sure this got through.) >>> >>> There is sea change happening in updating the ways we perceive certain >>> groups. >>> >>> >>> historically, I have always found this to be an intelligent (sorry) and >>> open-minded group, but to be honest, I'm a disappointed with many people's >>> response. >>> >>> >>> No one is saying someone with a sad, ignorant name like this should be >>> 'banned.' Though if I was a festival or venue or label I wouldn't touch a >>> person with this detestable name. >>> >>> >>> What I think should be obvious is that the name 'beatwife' is >>> normalizing violence against women. Violence against women is a horrid, >>> world-wide crisis that has been going on since the dawn of time and it is >>> now in our power >>> to limit it, but we need to see how out-in-the-open it is. >>> >>> >>> 'hang black' 'kill fags' ... ha ha... no. stupid, ignorant, >>> unacceptable. yes, someone dope can use this name, sure. but they need to >>> know that it's offensive, and if you aren't offended you are part of the >>> problem. >>> >>> >>> maybe it's because i have a daughter... maybe it's because i'm a >>> highschool teacher of young women who have been the victims of violence >>> against them and seen what it does to their lives. >>> >>> >>> VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN IS FUCKING HORRIBLE. >>> >>> >>> 'BEATWIFE' is an UNACCEPTABLE name. >>> >>> this person needs to know this, his label needs to know this. >>> >>> >>> SHAME on orb magazine for supporting this artist. hell, SHAME ON >>> BANDCAMP FOR NOT DELETING HIS ACCOUNT. I'm going to contact both avenues >>> now regarding this >>> >>> >>> The time to look the other way with this sort of shit is over. >>> >>> It's not OK. >>> >>> >>> and to state what should also be obvious, electronic music has struggled >>> against being a boy's club also for way too long... shit like this does >>> not help. >>> >>> >>> imagine being a female electronic music artist and reading the >>> discussion happening here. imagine how unsupported you would feel. if i >>> was a female i would tell all who can't accept the obvious evils here to >>> @#$#$^#@. >>> >>> I just emailed this to his label... >>> >>> >>> "it recently came to my attention that you have an artist named BEATWIFE >>> on your roster. This is a disgusting, unacceptable name. >>> >>> PLEASE ASK HIM TO IMMEDIATELY CHANGE HIS NAME. >>> >>> Violence against women is horrible and this 'play on words name' is not >>> funny. >>> >>> If you don't force him to change his name or drop him YOU ARE PART OF >>> THE PROBLEM. >>> >>> please stop helping to normalize violence against women. >>> >>> THANK YOU! Peace." >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> ---------------------------------------- >> not sent from an iDevice >> ---------------------------------------- >> > > > > -- > 22tape/jared dunne > listen <http://22tape.com> >