dude that was off-topic....but that was so what I, and probably a lot of
IDMers needed to hear. I've always had a secret fear that it wasn't big evil
record exec's with cigars that conducted and controlled the crappy tastes of
most kids I've met, but that it was in fact their own opinions controlling
the direction of the mainstream. It's good to know that there are still kids
that felt what I felt when I first heard some idm, that sense of
"wait....what is this? this can be done?" that whole paradigm shift....I'm
glad that still happens, somewhere.
keep making it happen you black emperor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Record Camp" <lists@activaire.com>
To: "Henderson Jesse" <friendofgod@mindspring.com>; "Lander"
<gamera_@yahoo.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 2:50 PM
Subject: RE: [idm] marumari on trl- getting OT
quoted 1 line ok, so even if MTV will never let it happen, its still worth doing, its
> ok, so even if MTV will never let it happen, its still worth doing, its
like
quoted 1 line voting for a political party that has no chance of winning, at least the
> voting for a political party that has no chance of winning, at least the
our
quoted 1 line opinions are voiced and we show support to the artists. Plan C really is,
> opinions are voiced and we show support to the artists. Plan C really is,
if
quoted 3 lines MTV won't help us then we'll do it ourselves, I don't know what that means
> MTV won't help us then we'll do it ourselves, I don't know what that means
> exactly but thats why we do record camp.
> One glimmer of hope though, I was in Other Music last week and these
obvious
quoted 2 lines TRL kids came in while some IDM was playing, they were really into it,
> TRL kids came in while some IDM was playing, they were really into it,
> they'd never heard anything like it they said. They left the store with
some
quoted 1 line IDM comps per Scott's suggestions. Its not that people don't want to try
> IDM comps per Scott's suggestions. Its not that people don't want to try
new
quoted 2 lines things its that new things aren't what they get to see at popular venues.
> things its that new things aren't what they get to see at popular venues.
> Every now and then, while djing someone will walk in and ask if I've got
any
quoted 1 line jay z or if I play any "progessive" or they'll tell me if I played
> jay z or if I play any "progessive" or they'll tell me if I played
dancehall
quoted 3 lines we'd fill the place, thats not really the point. Its for those people that
> we'd fill the place, thats not really the point. Its for those people that
> come in who listen to jay z all day and come up to me and ask what I'm
> playing and where they can get it rather than tell me what I could do
better
quoted 5 lines to appease the american pop culture attitude.
> to appease the american pop culture attitude.
> Its also great when someone comes up to me and says, "wow, are you playing
> Phonem?", that always blows me away.
> I think what I meant to do by suggesting that we all vote for marumari on
> TRL was to encourage supporting this scene and this music because even in
a
quoted 2 lines place like NYC that doesn't happen as much as you would think. Liking this
> place like NYC that doesn't happen as much as you would think. Liking this
> music or any sub genre/culture is a constant uphill battle. Its hard
enough
quoted 1 line being a fan, imagine what its like being an artist. I've gone to shows
> being a fan, imagine what its like being an artist. I've gone to shows
where
quoted 2 lines I thought the place was going to be packed and I get there only to find a
> I thought the place was going to be packed and I get there only to find a
> handfull of the same hardcore fans that I see at most shows. There are
very
quoted 3 lines few venues for this music because more often than not these events end up
> few venues for this music because more often than not these events end up
> with poor turn outs. This isn't the same in other genres, you can pick any
> given punk rock show featuring a bunch of bands you've never heard of,
show
quoted 2 lines up and you'll find a full house. Part of this is about the music, the rest
> up and you'll find a full house. Part of this is about the music, the rest
> of it has to do with community and the need to be within something
familiar.
quoted 13 lines anyway, I've gone way off topic. :-)
>
> anyway, I've gone way off topic. :-)
>
> http://www.recordcamp.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henderson Jesse [mailto:friendofgod@mindspring.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 3:04 AM
> To: Lander; idm@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [idm] marumari on trl- getting OT
>
>
> ok then.......plan b strategy......we create a virus that uses very
complex
quoted 17 lines programming algorithms to alter reality and turn TRL into the thunderdome.
> programming algorithms to alter reality and turn TRL into the thunderdome.
> Then we just wait.............wait............MUAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lander" <gamera_@yahoo.com>
> To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 7:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [idm] marumari on trl- getting OT
>
>
> > That
> > is
> > so
> > depressing.
> > I can't even hate MTV for it, they're giving their fans exactly what
they
quoted 1 line want. But these kids... they are happy to go there and be told what
> > want. But these kids... they are happy to go there and be told what
their
quoted 6 lines opinion is, just for the tiny chance they will get to look like a total
> > opinion is, just for the tiny chance they will get to look like a total
> > ass on national TV for 10 seconds? Is the concept of individuality so
> > completely beneath their contempt that they beg for the opportunity to
> > give it away?
> > It makes me sick.
> > As someone who's lived in this country all his life, I tell you TRL is
the
quoted 10 lines most definite sign I've seen yet that the gluttonous monster known as
> > most definite sign I've seen yet that the gluttonous monster known as
> > American popular culture is on the fast track to self-annihilation. As
> > soon as these TRL kids find themselves 30-something and in charge, well
> > that's the end of the world, I'm sure.
> > That's ok, I always really really dug those mad max movies!
> >
> > Z
> >
> > --- Kurtis Behn <kurt77@swbell.net> wrote:
> > > here are two articles from salon detailing (among other things) just
how
quoted 37 lines we
> > > we
> > > could NEVER get marumari on trl. it's an evil corporate empire
> > > conspiracy,
> > > and not by accident.
> > >
> > > http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2001/08/28/trl/index.html
> > > http://www.salon.com/ent/music/feature/2001/08/29/trl/index.html
> > >
> > > k
> > >
> > >
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