ok, so even if MTV will never let it happen, its still worth doing, its like
voting for a political party that has no chance of winning, at least the our
opinions are voiced and we show support to the artists. Plan C really is, if
MTV won't help us then we'll do it ourselves, I don't know what that means
exactly but thats why we do record camp.
One glimmer of hope though, I was in Other Music last week and these obvious
TRL kids came in while some IDM was playing, they were really into it,
they'd never heard anything like it they said. They left the store with some
IDM comps per Scott's suggestions. Its not that people don't want to try new
things its that new things aren't what they get to see at popular venues.
Every now and then, while djing someone will walk in and ask if I've got any
jay z or if I play any "progessive" or they'll tell me if I played dancehall
we'd fill the place, thats not really the point. Its for those people that
come in who listen to jay z all day and come up to me and ask what I'm
playing and where they can get it rather than tell me what I could do better
to appease the american pop culture attitude.
Its also great when someone comes up to me and says, "wow, are you playing
Phonem?", that always blows me away.
I think what I meant to do by suggesting that we all vote for marumari on
TRL was to encourage supporting this scene and this music because even in a
place like NYC that doesn't happen as much as you would think. Liking this
music or any sub genre/culture is a constant uphill battle. Its hard enough
being a fan, imagine what its like being an artist. I've gone to shows where
I thought the place was going to be packed and I get there only to find a
handfull of the same hardcore fans that I see at most shows. There are very
few venues for this music because more often than not these events end up
with poor turn outs. This isn't the same in other genres, you can pick any
given punk rock show featuring a bunch of bands you've never heard of, show
up and you'll find a full house. Part of this is about the music, the rest
of it has to do with community and the need to be within something familiar.
anyway, I've gone way off topic. :-)
http://www.recordcamp.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Henderson Jesse [mailto:friendofgod@mindspring.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 3:04 AM
To: Lander; idm@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [idm] marumari on trl- getting OT
ok then.......plan b strategy......we create a virus that uses very complex
programming algorithms to alter reality and turn TRL into the thunderdome.
Then we just wait.............wait............MUAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lander" <gamera_@yahoo.com>
To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [idm] marumari on trl- getting OT
quoted 48 lines That
> That
> is
> so
> depressing.
> I can't even hate MTV for it, they're giving their fans exactly what they
> want. But these kids... they are happy to go there and be told what their
> opinion is, just for the tiny chance they will get to look like a total
> ass on national TV for 10 seconds? Is the concept of individuality so
> completely beneath their contempt that they beg for the opportunity to
> give it away?
> It makes me sick.
> As someone who's lived in this country all his life, I tell you TRL is the
> most definite sign I've seen yet that the gluttonous monster known as
> American popular culture is on the fast track to self-annihilation. As
> soon as these TRL kids find themselves 30-something and in charge, well
> that's the end of the world, I'm sure.
> That's ok, I always really really dug those mad max movies!
>
> Z
>
> --- Kurtis Behn <kurt77@swbell.net> wrote:
> > here are two articles from salon detailing (among other things) just how
> > we
> > could NEVER get marumari on trl. it's an evil corporate empire
> > conspiracy,
> > and not by accident.
> >
> > http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2001/08/28/trl/index.html
> > http://www.salon.com/ent/music/feature/2001/08/29/trl/index.html
> >
> > k
> >
> >
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