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winblad.donald.ichiro
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Date:
Sun, 1 Jul 2001 12:16:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:
[idm] hip-hop stereotyping
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quoted 6 lines I didn't grow up the 'hood, but I find that rap is an>I didn't grow up the 'hood, but I find that rap is an >outlet for rage and anger geared towards young black >males that don't know any better than to 'buy' scads >of cds by artists that churn out mindless amounts of >repetitive drivel speaking of some woman's 'bootie' >they 'boned' last night.
i think that's a bit of stereotyping don't you? there's plenty of hip-hop artists, both vocal and instrumental, that don't fit into your view of what hip-hop is. it's true that a lot of commercialised shit you hear on the radio is crap but there's plenty of underground material that doesn't fall into the "bling-bling" category.
quoted 5 lines I find rap to be complete crap quite plain and>I find rap to be complete crap quite plain and >simple. The days of creativity have obviously run >out with todays rap, and if you think electronic >artists should look towards rap as influence, the >genre itself will be ruined.
to me it seems that some electronic artists aren't even really making the music anymore. they're more programmers that develop software that "randomly" makes their music for them. i think that it is much harder to make an album that is 100% sample-based ala dj shadow than it is to buy some drum machines, a keyboard/sequencer or an all computer-based system and make music. obviously both sides look to each other for inspiration. people like autechre and boards of canada have nothing but good things to say about producers like the rza and they admit that their background is hip-hop based. obviously early hip-hop (electro type shit) was heavily influenced by electronic music (i.e. afrika bambaataa looking towards kraftwerk, etc...) i think that it all goes hand in hand. both are musics based on technology, just different approaches. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org