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From:
Mark
To:
Helix Tradesman , idm
Date:
Fri, 15 Jun 2001 19:12:38 -0700
Subject:
Re: [idm] IDM = poor mixing/production?
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Helix Tradesman wrote:
quoted 5 lines How many of these shite mastered cds were recorded recently? Full> How many of these shite mastered cds were recorded recently? Full > Sunken Breaks I would consider it an exception, as those are old > tracks on the album. Are any of them new? When I read this thread > originally I got the impression that a lot of the stuff people are > complaining about being mastered poorly is older.
Full Sunken breaks has a LOT of Royal Astronomy session tracks, many with similar samples/keyboard patches, and two using the Japanese woman (her name escapes me) in RA for vocals in FSB. It's not as old as you think. 1999? 1998 at the oldest, I'm sure. A year earlier and you're back into Lunatic Harness territory. So, I'm sure he used a pewt for sequencing/mixing, though I could be wrong, I didn't write the songs. B-sides? Perhaps. As far as older albums and mixing quality are concerned, some of the better mastered ones are actually OLDER. Spanners is mixed quite well. So is Incunabula and Amber. I think it just may be smaller label artists that have the problem in a big way (outside of Mike P and RDJ) such as Marumari, a few Schematic artists (Richard Devine not included, his shit is mixed tops) some of Mandell's work, Solvent, etc. But keep in mind, save really really well mixed albums, I can hear a few errors on every cd of every genre in my entire collection. I was just pointing out that some of the worse mixed cds, the truely amateur sounding mixes I have heard have been largely IDM artists. Who mixes the best? (in my cd collection at least) NIN for sure. Flawless and gorgeous; infinitely layered with not a single unintentional pop or peak, though at times it's hard to tell the difference if it did occur. Radiohead's Kid A is another flawless cd (and flawless musically, too!). Granted these are larger budget major label artists, but that's what it takes to get a flawless mix. I'm not asking for a flawless mix (to avoid hypocrite flames) I just want something that's not glaringly poor. That was my original point, even though it probably didn't come across as such.
quoted 3 lines Either way, I love most of the album, and I think the lo-fi style> > Either way, I love most of the album, and I think the lo-fi style > suits it. :)
I find Full Sunken Breaks to be far superior to Royal Astronomy, and have probably listened to it more than is healthy, as well as The Wolves Hollow and other poorly mixed albums. They are excellent records, musically, which is why I purchased them (that, and my undying passion for Mike P's nipples - wait did I just type that? and I'm not erasing it, but in fact writing my thoughts out instead? what is going on here?... oh well, I'm too lazy to erase it all). I just brought up the mixing issue for fellow bedroom producers and texture nuts. -mark --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org