neo-dada sure does it.
but rather, the concept idea that grew out of the neo-dada folks, that is
what is still rocking the left field music scene nowdays.
Thank Fluxus for that.
ricky@agrolights
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quoted 12 lines From: R. Lim <rlim@escape.com>> From: R. Lim <rlim@escape.com>
> To: IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: Re: [idm] dada
> Date: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:56 PM
>
> On Tue, 29 May 2001 andrei@world.std.com wrote:
>
> > I'd have to say that friendly person needs to do a little more reading
> > up on the Dada movement. That comment seems pretty nonsensical to me.
> > First of all there's really no Dada music to speak of. The people
>
> Yeah, I don't really understand how that comment could make sense.
Duchamp
quoted 3 lines did actually write some music, though it doesn't really seem connected> did actually write some music, though it doesn't really seem connected
> with his Dada work. There's one piece of his on the Sub Rosa comp
> "Futurism and Dada Revisited", but it's interpreted in a very
contemporary
quoted 1 line style using long string drones & thus has a tendency to blur together> style using long string drones & thus has a tendency to blur together
like
quoted 15 lines a Jonathan Coleclough track.> a Jonathan Coleclough track.
>
> I think the same label put out an entire full-length of one of his
> compositions, but I haven't heard it. Not to say that Duchamp=Dada, but
> it's surely an avenue worth pursuing... I myself have been too busy
> soaking in the art gallery ambience of the _Theatermusik_ comp on
> Crosstalk to be bothered.
>
> > music. The Fluxus movement which came later and was influenced by Dada
> > was a lot more involved with music, but still I don't see a connection
> > with what Autechre does. I don't find any of the absurdism, anarchy
>
> I wouldn't necessarily say that Fluxus was more involved in music per se,
> but rather they chose to expound upon the Dadaist notion of
> performance/theater in a manner suitable to the way they critiqued the
art
quoted 19 lines object (namely, using mass producible items). It is true that there's a> object (namely, using mass producible items). It is true that there's a
> lot of Fluxus artists who went on to produce music afterwards, but their
> compositions are almost never concerned with the original movement.
>
> > and defiance to logic of Dada in what Autechre does. Something like
> > V/Vm is perhaps closer to Dada. Even Aphex is closer to Dada than
> > Autechre in his pranksterism.
>
> Agreed.
>
> > speak of early 20th century art movements). Futurism influenced the
> > early musique concrete pioneers who in turn influenced Autechre.
>
> How do you figure? I could see how this might work from a sound
> aesthetic, but are you referring to their extolling the virtues of
> Parmegiani in an interview? I ask because methodologically, Autechre's
> current direction seems to be opposite the approach used in concrete.
> Not to mention that I would still argue that the style that influences
> them is the part that went furthest astray of the original Futurist
goals.
quoted 7 lines -rob>
> -rob
>
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