On Tue, 29 May 2001 andrei@world.std.com wrote:
quoted 3 lines I'd have to say that friendly person needs to do a little more reading> I'd have to say that friendly person needs to do a little more reading
> up on the Dada movement. That comment seems pretty nonsensical to me.
> First of all there's really no Dada music to speak of. The people
Yeah, I don't really understand how that comment could make sense. Duchamp
did actually write some music, though it doesn't really seem connected
with his Dada work. There's one piece of his on the Sub Rosa comp
"Futurism and Dada Revisited", but it's interpreted in a very contemporary
style using long string drones & thus has a tendency to blur together like
a Jonathan Coleclough track.
I think the same label put out an entire full-length of one of his
compositions, but I haven't heard it. Not to say that Duchamp=Dada, but
it's surely an avenue worth pursuing... I myself have been too busy
soaking in the art gallery ambience of the _Theatermusik_ comp on
Crosstalk to be bothered.
quoted 3 lines music. The Fluxus movement which came later and was influenced by Dada> music. The Fluxus movement which came later and was influenced by Dada
> was a lot more involved with music, but still I don't see a connection
> with what Autechre does. I don't find any of the absurdism, anarchy
I wouldn't necessarily say that Fluxus was more involved in music per se,
but rather they chose to expound upon the Dadaist notion of
performance/theater in a manner suitable to the way they critiqued the art
object (namely, using mass producible items). It is true that there's a
lot of Fluxus artists who went on to produce music afterwards, but their
compositions are almost never concerned with the original movement.
quoted 3 lines and defiance to logic of Dada in what Autechre does. Something like> and defiance to logic of Dada in what Autechre does. Something like
> V/Vm is perhaps closer to Dada. Even Aphex is closer to Dada than
> Autechre in his pranksterism.
Agreed.
quoted 2 lines speak of early 20th century art movements). Futurism influenced the> speak of early 20th century art movements). Futurism influenced the
> early musique concrete pioneers who in turn influenced Autechre.
How do you figure? I could see how this might work from a sound
aesthetic, but are you referring to their extolling the virtues of
Parmegiani in an interview? I ask because methodologically, Autechre's
current direction seems to be opposite the approach used in concrete.
Not to mention that I would still argue that the style that influences
them is the part that went furthest astray of the original Futurist goals.
-rob
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