Myroslaw Bytz wrote:
quoted 9 lines I think many of us already relate to the Internet this way -- it's like
> > I think many of us already relate to the Internet this way -- it's like
> > a giant memory extension that anyone can tap into if they know how.
> > Almost feels like having a bionic brain sometimes...
>
> great point. the computer is not only a memory extension, but also a mirror
> on which your own thoughts are reflected back to you, in different and
> abstractly concrete ways (huh?:). this, i think is the reason that humans
> and their consciousness have been and will be going through changes such as
> have never been seen before.
I agree. Some people will always argue that 'nothing is new under the sun',
that humans have always been/will always be the same, etc., but I think
technology does change things in fundamental ways.
quoted 5 lines we don't know what these changes will pan out
> we don't know what these changes will pan out
> to be, but we are in that crucial stage of scrambling to find new
> expressions of all types to help define (or decompose) our thoughts,
> processes, experiences, et cetera. vladislav delay is a prime example of
> that to me.
That's what I mean. Check out this quote from Boy's Own fanzine (late 80s UK
acid house scene), we've had it on our homepage for awhile:
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consider it another way. How does music work? by a statement of what its not.
The structure of sound operates through a continual state of change, it
describes an abstraction for emotion, for perception, within its own
architecture. The changes need not be immense ? a new fall of light, the sweep
of a glance ? but its enough.
What does this actually achieve? on the most mundane level, it gives a
language, devoid of the act of compromise that verbal mediation essentially is,
to peoples experiences. It allows a moment to catelogue and accept the seen
through means of the unseen.
The Cheap technology with which house records could be made created, as did
punk, an entire breed of non-musicians, ready, through an extensive process of
trial and error, to fit a soundtrack for their particular world. Much of this
was haphazard, but the fact that there existed an experimental platform was of
fundamental importance. Although these new producers/non-musicians/creators had
not attended conservatoires or
studied composition, and are therefore unable to give anything other than a
limited theoretical explanation of their work, this in no way lessens their
significance.
[author unknown]
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quoted 2 lines autechre is an example as well, but i have a feeling even they
> autechre is an example as well, but i have a feeling even they
> will soon become outdated.
You're probably right -- I think that is an indication of just how fast
everything is changing right now. Autechre are experimenting with the
possibilities of new software, but next year they'll have even more powerful
computers and software and so on...
quoted 3 lines HOWEVER... the largest and most vital mistake that can be made is totally
> HOWEVER... the largest and most vital mistake that can be made is totally
> discarding older musics as entirely irrelevant. after all, everything is a
> chain.
I totally agree. When I DJ, I try to play a mixture of fresh electronic beats
together with scraps and pieces of music from the past that still sounds good
to me...Miles Davis, Shiv Kumar Sharma, Grandmaster Flash, Bach, anything goes.
(I love playing in DJ bars where you can get away with such an eclectic
selection...)
The trick is finding old music that still sounds contemporary, it's like magic.
Stephen (the other laptop DJ I work with) has recently been playing a lot of
early Throbbing Gristle tracks, that stuff still sounds so fresh to me...
John
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John von Seggern
DJ/producer
Digital Cutup Lounge
Hong Kong
http://www.digitalcutuplounge.com
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