I think it is funny that in other genre's of music people don't feel cheated
when they hear new music from artist like Korn, limp biscuit, slipknot, and
more older and reputable artist like dave matthews, helmet, sunny day real
estate, tool, etc, based on how they write their songs. I mean, when is
the last time you heard someone say, "yeah, I heard the new tool album and
it sucks, I can do all that stuff they do."
I don't know about you guys, but i am not interested in equipment used or
how this sound is being created (at least, not when I rate albums), I am
interested in how it actually sounds and how those sounds effect me or how
they make me feel while listening to it. When I saw autechre, yeah, it got
kind of repetitious, but it was simply amazing how beautiful that repetition
played as a role in their music. Throbbing beats popunding my chest with
such anxiety, yet under such immense control, that was beautiful.
on 5/21/01 1:32 AM, Gilly at galaxey@sdccu.net wrote:
quoted 63 lines anonymous wrote:
> anonymous wrote:
>
> There is nothing wrong with making music for yourself. That's missing the
> point.
>
> There is something wrong with charging me $15 + $7 in ticketbastard fees to
> go watch two guys do a bunch of shit i sit here and do with my nord modular
> anyway.
>
> Let me elaborate on this.
>
> This recent autechre tour has become the joke of the nord-modular list. For
> those who don't know, the Nord Modular is one of many synthesizers available
> on the market today. It also happens to be ae's primary synth, if not the
> only thing they use on some of their tracks.
>
> One of the many capabilities of the modular, depending on the user's
> experience and skill, is that one can actually write chaotic evolving
> patches. Most of us know how to do it by now, and we all know Autechre
> does.
>
> So this entire week the list has been filled with "autechre concert" patches
> from people like me pissed that they paid money to go hear a demo of a
> synthesizer...
>
> ...and some of them are *dead on*. perfect.
>
> which basically shows that autechre is pulling a big "fuck you" to their
> fans. any of us who know how to use the nord can do this crap. it takes a
> bit of practice learning the ramp controls and logic functions, but once
> you've got it down you can be Instant-Autechre.
>
> This, to me, is not music. It's a patch on a synth. I can sit here at home
> and listen to my own versions of it instead of paying $22 to stand in a
> dark, hot crowded room and listen to Sean Booth act like he's actually doing
> something innovative.
>
> This is "wankery" to me. It's boring. Those of you listening to it
> thinking "man, that's crazy...they're switching from 3/4 to 9/15 and
> back"...well, no, they aren't. it's a bunch of algorithms on a synth doing
> it, and it wouldn't matter if there was someone in front of the synth or
> not.
>
> So obviously, I wanted to know why Roxi liked it (do try to read all the
> posts before replying next time ;), not "why she lacks the capability of
> knowing any better" or however that was twisted. I think a lot of people
> like this crap because it's Autechre, and Autechre is cool, so they're
> supposed to like it. That's just lame. There are hundreds of bands out
> there doing this kind of stuff, only better. Richie Devine writes his own
> dsp code for his tracks, for chrissakes...Phoenecia melded miami booty bass
> with idm...even some of Jake Mandell's stuff has a weird jazzy feel on top
> of the clicks and pops...and, of course, even though RDJ made up all that
> junk about making his own custom synths and software, he still did some
> amazing stuff with supercollider and has always been a positive innovator in
> the electronic music scene.
>
> I just wonder if all the same people would be listening to a cd of this
> music if it was some unknown band. I doubt it, but who knows. This isn't
> an attack, so please don't read it that way.
> "Anything that separates us is junk. Cause when it rains, both the pope and
> the prostitute get wet"
> -Carlos Santana on racism
> :::...\|/unity in diversity\|/..:::
Peter "Pachinko" Ý
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