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kurt(bway.net) , idm
Date:
Sat, 19 May 2001 07:20:11 +0800
Subject:
Re: [idm] Is IDM art?
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"kurt(bway.net)" wrote:
quoted 3 lines I think it's a mistake to accept this high/low art dichotomy in the> >I think it's a mistake to accept this high/low art dichotomy in the > >first place, I don't believe it helps us to understand what's going on > >with different genres of music.
quoted 3 lines I don't know. I'm no snob. but having spent a lot of time with> I don't know. I'm no snob. but having spent a lot of time with > electronica in the last couple years, i'd have to say that most of it > isn't built to last particularly, it's casual, disposable culture.
I agree -- but what does that have to do with high/low art? I think the 'disposable' nature of much electronic music may have more to do with the accelerated speed at which our culture is changing, as well as the 'open form' characteristic of many tracks -- by which I mean that your average techno track isn't really a composition in itself, it's meant as construction material for a DJ to use. Having said that, though, there are certainly IDM/techno/drum'n'bass whatever recordings that I would consider 'classic' and that I expect to continue selling for a long time to come. I love some of Derrick May's earliest Detroit tracks for example, and still play them at gigs sometimes.
quoted 5 lines I> I > don't know, I guess the same is true of a lot of stuff in the > classical world, though, at its best, that world has a lot more > intellectual support (teachers, books, critics, history, theory, etc) > which can prod people towards more complex achievements.
I dislike most of the music that comes out of that world because it's 100% head music in most cases, while great dance music addresses the whole person, mind and body. In the case of 'classical' music, this is a reflection of the mind/body split which has troubled Western civilization for centuries... I'm really interested in the crossover which seems to be having at the far end of IDM and academia, though. I attended a recent meeting of SEAMUS (the Society for Electro-Acoustic Music in the US) and had one of my abstract pieces played there in March, it was interesting to see just how little difference there is between some of the music coming from electronic composers in academia and recent Autechre, for example. It seems to be taboo to use a regular beat in academia, however... John -- John von Seggern DJ/producer Digital Cutup Lounge Hong Kong http://www.digitalcutuplounge.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org