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From:
kurt(bway.net)
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leafcutter
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Mon, 14 May 2001 19:19:48 -0400
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Re: [idm] Is IDM art?
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leafcutter <leafcutter.john@virgin.net> wrote:
quoted 1 line Is IDM art though?>Is IDM art though?
aw heck -- it ain't no chair nor a hammer nor a pack of gum. it's culture. it's music, which has, since ancient times, been recognized as one of the arts. In short, there's no way for it NOT to be art. whether it's GOOD art or not, you be the judge. whether it relates to some "high art" tradition, like the classical music tradition or the modern artworld of museums and galleries, that's another question. obviously a bunch of IDM artists have this or that in common with various composers who do the concert hall/opera house gigs, but I don't think the critical and academic apparatus that surrounds classical music is particularly appropriate for most IDM. IDM, which is clearly derived from popular forms, is essentially less rigorous but also less pretentious than most contemporary classical music. Personally, I can't stand most of the crap I hear coming out of classical music schools these days, so I'm satisfied that IDM is more of a "middlebrow" art. gets especially slippery when music meets the contemporary visual arts, as that scene has been making a concerted attack on the divisions between "high/elitist" and "low/popular" art for about a century. Warhol promoting the Velvets is part of why we think they're "art". so yeah, I mean probably most IDM has as much claim to being "high art" as most of the stuff in a contemporary gallery, but who cares? Galleries are for selling expensive objects to rich people...I prefer buying a cheap copy at a record store personally. But, that said, certain IDM'ers have a foot in the visual art world -- for instance, Thomas Brinkmann, Terre Thaemlitz and Marcus Popp --their concepts and presentation are informed by trends and ideas in the visual artworld. Doesn't mean that they have more claim to being art than musicians quite outside the artworld, they're just a certain trip. k --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org