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From:
Peter Schrock
To:
anyone and everyone and
Date:
Mon, 07 May 2001 19:04:10 -0800
Subject:
Re: [idm] Looking for? RE:I'm over idm
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on 5/7/01 11:57 AM, Brian Gause at BGause@zaplet.com wrote:
quoted 34 lines Peter> > Peter > > This brings up an interesting point that I've been considering for a while > now regarding Boards of Canada. > > I've been slowly losing interest in IDM over the past 12-18 months and I > attribute this to a few things... > 1) tastes simply change > 2) the glut of new IDM artists flooded the genre...making it harder to find > the good stuff > 3) Boards of Canada > > There are some ways that I think of IDM as a subgenre of Autechre and Aphex. > Of course, this is marginalizing the contributions of a lot of key people > (global communication, plaid, sqpshr, u-ziq, warp, rephlex, ninjatune, etc), > but for me, a lot of IDM seems to be a reaction to these original artists, > in particular autechre...albeit two or three years late. If you look at what > happened a few years ago with the 'autechre clones', you see exactly what > I'm saying. Last year was a bit of a return to the warmer, more melodic sort > of IDM that autechre was doing with their first two albums. Aspen, lily of > the valley, crunch (okay, released this year, but it's older material, > right?), etc. Music (and genres) cycle through layers of change, but it's > interesting to me how much of this change is influenced by autechre. > > This is obviously a product of my own tastes because, honestly, I never > latched on to drill'n'bass, glitch, or clicks. These styles have birthed > subgenres, yes, but not that I've pursued. > > But what's the point? Boards of Canada. Autechre is brilliant, but too > cereberal for a lot of folks. The rhythms are complex and the time > signatures shift frequently as far as I can tell. It's amazing what Sean and > Rob can do with a PC and a ton of imagination. >
actually, they use apple computers. but yeah, I agree.
quoted 7 lines What Autechre does for my head, boards of canada does for the inside of my> What Autechre does for my head, boards of canada does for the inside of my > eyelids. I swear there's something subconscious going on in this music...a > layer I'm not hearing. The melodies are clear and beautiful in a simple, > schoolyard sort of way. It's complex material and I don't mean to say it's > simple and easy to do; quite the contrary...but Boards of Canada makes me > feel six years old again. Six years old and full of joy again. >
I have really been digging on BoC as of lately.
quoted 16 lines BoC have created sound that transcends what I've come to know as IDM.> BoC have created sound that transcends what I've come to know as IDM. > Consequently, most other IDM leaves me cold these days. I find myself > searching for that missing connection and where it usually leads is to some > hybrid electronic band (air, bent, sigur ros, bjork, etc.) Cerebral with > soul. > > As a caveat to this, I've been loving arovane lately in a similar way. > Intensely beautiful in a way I've not heard in a while. There are other > selected tracks that really do it for me, but they're few and far between > (the schikowski track from the cashier escape route comp, a bit of marumari, > a styrofoam track or two and a few others). > > BoC have changed the way I listen to music in the same way that Autechre did > about 9-10 years ago. Period. > > .Brian
i appreciate the response. see, I think too many ppl are too critical. take it for what it is. you either like what you hear, or you don't. I appreciate the honesty in this letter, it seems rare on this list. Everyone talks about what IDM is or isn't. Too me, IDM is not just how the artist creates music, but it is also how they affect the listener. IDM requires more attention to listen to than the average genre, where you actually have to listen to the music, especially if the artist is really good. I am just extremely discouraged by the list and it's perception of what direction IDM should go, it's like trying to tell the wind to blow east or west, you can't. It goes where it wants, and because it is knocking down brick houses, everyone is dissatisfied with it's results. Peter "Pachinko" Ý - http://www.mp3.com/pachinko - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org