wow, what a antagonist! I hope he finds his happiness elsewhere.
on 5/5/01 2:08 PM, anachronistic at analogueskin@hotmail.com wrote:
quoted 85 lines Hey guys, this thread has long since lost any connection to the topic
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>> Hey guys, this thread has long since lost any connection to the topic
>> of this mailing list. Please knock it off or take it off the list.
>> Thanks.
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>> respectfully yours,
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>> kurt
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>
> Oh good, now we can all get back to strutting around like the pretentious
> fucks we are. And you just KNOW I was so much more enjoying the threads
> about fucking Confield. I am so tired of deleting 80 messages a day and I
> am sick of reading everyones inane, banal, and puerile little thoughts.
> There are a few of you who actually contribute something worthwhile and I
> thank you for that. But if you automatically think I am talking about YOU,
> you're probably wrong. And to debase myself to the level of this list, I
> hated Confield too, I cannot stand Autechre even though I give them chance
> after chance. Even going to see them live because people hold them in such
> high regard. I have a girlfriend who loves IDM. Now what other thread can I
> bring up that refuses to seep away and slowly fucking die? I am
> unsubscribing now, something I should have done a long time ago. And don't
> bother to write me to complain about me airing all my complaints on the
> list. You've read this far, haven't you?
>
> Grow up people. Unsubscribe and go outside. Throw a frisbee around. Chat
> up someone pretty.
>
> And to leave you on a positive note, here's something from
> tigerbeat6.com/cex that I thought maybe you'd all be interested in.
>
> enjoy!
>
> david.
>
> "Here you have 1000 or so people getting messages in their mailbox from the
> same 50 or 60 people -- the vast, vast majority of whom are easily
> identifiable as electronic music artists of some caliber or another by the
> (frequently lengthy and shockingly immodest [oh god, you're one to talk
> about modesty, rjyan...]) tag-lines at the end of their emails which give
> their name, email, web site, their label's website and possibly a list of
> the last sixteen records they put
> out and where to buy them. And they're all talking about music as if they
> were just regular people whose own identities weren't completely at stake
> with every single judgment they make. People are having these arguments and
> discussions when it's painfully, painfully obvious that no one's really
> talking about THAT music, they're talking about THEIR music -- even when
> they don't come out and say they are (which is actually rarer than you'd
> think.)
>
> I used to get upset when heads would bash the IDM-list. Virtually every
> electronic musician who knows of its existence has horrible things to say
> about it, especially electronic musicians who have garnered some modicum of
> success. Now, I have to capitulate: basically, the whole thing is pretty
> useless unless you plan
> on being one of the vocal minority who will pretend like their opinions
> about music don't have everything to do with their own goals and own career.
>
> Musicians don't really know anything about music. Fortunately, good
> musicians don't need to have objective opinions on music, because for us,
> the regular non-musicianal people, the primary concern is getting these guys
> to make more good music. Who cares what Artist X thinks about Artist Y's new
> record.
>
> Bad musicians can S[uck] their own D[ick]s and hoot and holler at each
> other all they want: regular people don't give a damn, and with good reason.
> It's like -- every music head has an agenda. They relate to other music
> through their agenda, almost never independently of it. And the majority of
> people who like music are not music makers. Yet the music makers are
> dominating most of these conversations. Especially in the electronic music
> game, but the same thing can be observed to a slightly lesser extent
> happening with the rock and the hip hop games."
>
> (Rjyan Kidwell, 4/30/01)
>
>
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