Well, I might sound shallow or something, but yeah, I wanna hear crazy new
sounds. If I just wanna hear well written songs, which sometimes I do,
I'll listen to Bach, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Coltrane, Davis, Beatles,
Beach Boys etc. The point is as far as well written songs go there is
alot
more stuff out there alot better than crunch, and while it may not use
electronic sounds, if I want those I go to Autechre or whoever is up to
crazy weird shit.
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Michael J Henderson Jr. wrote:
quoted 139 lines Admittedly, Crunch isn't exactly breaking much new ground, but, uhm,
>
> Admittedly, Crunch isn't exactly breaking much new ground, but, uhm,
> does that mean that it's somehow not valid? ... I mean, this is exactly
> the problem with Confield. It seems like a lot of people just want to hear
> "Crazy New Shit", not good ol' well written songs.
>
> Sheesh, as if it's sacrilege to compare someone else to ae.
>
> -- -
> Nintari Man
>
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Brian M. Cass wrote:
>
> > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:09:04 -0600 (MDT)
> > From: Brian M. Cass <kingmob@nmt.edu>
> > To: Nintari Man <nintarispam@nintari.com>
> > Cc: idm@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: [idm] on discussing autechre on the list
> >
> > I haven't heard chris clark or boulderdash, but Crunch? I'm listening to
> > it now, and although I don't hate the album, how on earth can you, ugh, I
> > mean this isn't anything Autechre couldn't have done around Chiastic, and
> > even they didn't make such a simple cd, at least they went for more of an
> > artistic slant. I've heard some of the tracks off of Confield, and
> > personally I was hoping they would all be a bit more like Vis Scose, where
> > each track doesn't pay off until half way through.
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Nintari Man wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Alright, I'm disappointed. I'll admit it. Now I'll go off on a rant.
> > >
> > > <OPINION>
> > >
> > > As far as the melodic qualities of each track go, I'm entirely
> > > unimpressed. There's not much to be said about that. It either seems to be
> > > not there, not enough, or nothing new. Minimalism at it's most boring.
> > >
> > > Personally, I like the ass-shaking Autechre. This new album is most
> > > definately devoid of ass-shaking beatage. the 'Beats that might sound
> > > cool if they weren't so horribly fucked' aren't doing it for me. The
> > > tracks that do have some kind of coherent rhythm sound like they were
> > > programmed by a 3 year old with brain damage. Also, the oh-so-unsubtle and
> > > ridiculous timing/tempo changes on some of the tracks, uhm ... not slick,
> > > jack.
> > >
> > > I'm both amused and disturbed by how close the fakes I made ended up
> > > sounding like the actual tracks. I thought to myself, "What would AE sound
> > > like if they crawled a bit too far up their own asses", and proceeded to
> > > make tracks in 5 minutes that could probably quite easily fit in on
> > > Confield. Scary.
> > >
> > > Perhaps AE decided to get a laugh out of releasing a terrible record and
> > > getting every idm jagoff to say that it's fresh. Sadly, I don't think
> > > that's the case. The next step in hip hop from the Nth dimension?
> > > Perhaps, but I'm not sure if it's a step in the right direction.
> > >
> > > My advice? Invest in some of the more impressive up-and-comers before
> > > buying this album -- Boulderdash, Chris Clark, and Crunch.
> > >
> > > </OPINION>
> > >
> > > -- -
> > > Nintari Man
> > >
> > > On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Mark wrote:
> > >
> > > > Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:27:12 -0700
> > > > From: Mark <mef@ecst.csuchico.edu>
> > > > To: idm@hyperreal.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [idm] on discussing autechre on the list
> > > >
> > > > So now, trying to get off this roller coaster, what do people think of
> > > > the album? Supposedly it's released out in Japan, and i've seen it on
> > > > napster now, so I know some of you have it. Out with it! No more of
> > > > this rhetorical discussion on discussion BS. Let's have the meat of the
> > > > matter.
> > > >
> > > > -mark
> > > >
> > > > rw wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The people who wrote this message have been sacked.
> > > > >
> > > > > rw
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "sarah ellenberger" <djdesada@hotmail.com>
> > > > > To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 4:56 PM
> > > > > Subject: [idm] on discussing autechre on the list
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> dear fellow idmers
> > > > >>
> > > > >> it has come to my attention that perhaps we should not discuss whether or
> > > > >> not to discuss the new autechre album. perhaps that would be against the
> > > > >> consensus of the list. perhaps we should elect a senate to decide whether
> > > > >> or not we should be discussing whether or not we should discuss the new
> > > > >> autechre album... and then elect a different senate (composed of different
> > > > >> members) to discuss whether or not to discuss whether or not we should
> > > > >> discuss the new squarepusher release.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> perhaps? let me know what you all think.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> perhaps we should call Jerry Springer.
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