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From:
Adam Piontek
To:
Inconvenient Dark Matter
Date:
Fri, 13 Apr 2001 07:24:05 -0400
Subject:
RE: [idm] mp3 competition
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Actually, if you read the article further, it clarifies that they're onliy limiting the MP3-creation capabilities of their own included software. There's no way they can keep you from installing another company's software to make hi-quality MP3s. All this means is that people who never download or install software other than "what comes in the box" are not going to be able to make hi-quality MP3s. And since I don't think any of the people involved in MP3s so far uses MS software to do it, I don't think this will really affect the scene much at all, at least for a few years, and who can tell what the world will be like a few years from now? -adam
quoted 107 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: Static Beats [mailto:static@staticbeats.com] > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 2:04 AM > To: EggyToast > Cc: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] mp3 competition > > > Actually, I would have to disagree with you here. The article plainly > states: > ----- > "Microsoft, for example, plans to severely limit the quality of music that > can be recorded as an MP3 file. > > Why the eagerness to move consumers away from MP3? > > All the new music-software formats include technology known as > digital-rights management, which can "lock" copyright-protected songs and > make it harder for consumers to share that music illegally. " > ----- > > I would definitely call that limiting. It's one thing for MS to > employ their > usual practice of trying to push their own standards, but it's a > completely > different thing when they are purposely crippling a particular technology. > Couple that with the reasoning behind it; digital rights > management - which > has so far been unsuccesful (think liquid audio and sony's mp3 > walkmans) and > you have a company who is not *just* trying to add features and push it's > own (WMA) technology but a company who is also trying to decide what you > should and should not be doing with the music on your own computer. > > I would add as well that assuming that MP3's are *only* used for illegal > filesharing is pretty narrowminded. I use it to backup tons of original > music I create so that I can fit it onto a cd. A 1.5 gig uncompressed wav > file fits pretty nicely as a 192k mp3 onto a cd. > I can just as easily convert it back to wav when Im ready to > splice it up or > edit it with not much lost in the process which is simply not true for > neither Real nor WMA. You gotta admit, MP3 is one helluva > convenient format. > There are tons of tools out there for encoding, decoding, converting, > editing, streaming etc. from a myriad of companies whereas there > are only a > very small handful of tools available for Real and WMA and mostly from the > companies themselves (more control). > > In addition I have a portable MP3 player as well as an MP3/CD > hybrid player. > I don't really think the WMA codec is all that great. It's > certainly not as > lossless as MP3 and the Real 8 codec is basically ATRAC which is minidisc > and although I'm not ready to argue the point in my personal > tests of three > different Minidisc recorders I've found that basically you lose > the highest > of the highs and the lowest of the lows. > > I know this is a rant and I'm not trying to yell conspiracy here, but it > really does bother me that Microsoft is going to release a new OS > knowingly > and purposely limiting a particular technology that is already a worldwide > standard. > > > > Shimone/Justes > http://www.staticbeats.com > Electronic Music For The Mind > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "EggyToast" <youn0394@umn.edu> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 9:28 PM > Subject: Re: [idm] mp3 competition > > > > well they're not limiting, they're just not providing. All the article > > really says is that they're going to push for support of their > own format > > using their own products, which makes sense. Their products currently > just > > play back mp3's, which they still will. They're actually > adding features, > > by allowing windows media player to *make* mp3's, but at 56kbps so they > > sound pretty bad. > > > > And, you can still fully customize a Windows install so it only installs > > the basics. I just think it's funny that companies think that > people will > > always use a standard that's provided by a big company, instead of the > > standard that's already being used by everyone else. Mac and > Linux people > > aren't going to start using WMA any time soon :D > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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