ok swamay,
I gave you the benefit of the doubt and logged on to mp3.com
and had a listen to "what's your frequency" and "freq the technique" and I
liked both of the tracks.Obviously I couldn't hear everything in them
because I'm using a 56kbps modem (fastest domestic connection available in
Ireland btw !!!!!!!) but I have to say that I then put on "Ageispolis" and
"Xtal" by the Aphex Twin and well you know who won.
Your stuff is nice in an R'n'b meets electro vein (esp. wyf )but it kind of
limped along clutching its balls.
It may be "cutting edge" but its still miles behind the above 2 tracks (and
you know how that album was mastered).
Sorry.
Maybe I'm the guy to make you try harder.
Please do.
But don't forget to get rid of your Kyma in 6 months.
All the best,
Paul Chillage.
quoted 211 lines From: "swamay" <swamay@home.com>
>From: "swamay" <swamay@home.com>
>To: "Josh Bown" <josh@undertone.com>
>CC: "Paul Chillage" <paulchillage@hotmail.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [idm] last 6 months rule
>Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:34:41 -0700
>
>Simpler the better eh? not for me. i like options. dont like to conform
>to what i have been given. there is always more out there.
>
>
><<who needs more than a
> > few waveforms,
>
>ME
>
><<a couple envelopes and a couple of LFOs????
>
>ME
>
><< WHY?????
>
>so i can make more interesting music.
>
> >>? who wants to lug a computer to a gig????
>
>ME
>
> > Have you ever considered that maybe the problem isn't that you don't
> > have enough new gadgets, but that you just lack talent????
>
>Yes i sold all my gadgets to get a computer system, I oooze talent.. and
>KNOW that. :)
>
>
><<> New sound and gadget obsession is not a sign of musical innovation, it
> > is a sign of boredom and boringness and means you are probably just a
> > sound designer who wishes he was a musician. SOund designers get paid
> > big bucks in hollywood to do special effects in sci-fi movies... Why not
> > go get a job in hollywood and you will be more successful than 99.99% of
> > all musicians out there....
>
>
>hahaha... I DO! :) that is why i bought KYMA in the first place :)
>
>
><<> ok so before you have even heard my album, the fact that I am using a
> > Nord, my guitar, a sampler and some effects already eliminates it from
> > consideration? man.... WOW you are just too much!>>
>
>No, I dont like guitars. Where can i hear your album...I will listen to it
>gladly. :)
>
><<> or because the fall in love with a particular instrument and it always
> > goes beyond their wildest dreams in satisfying their needs and they have
> > no reason to look elsewhere?>>
>
>more power to ya. :) But i would be surprised if ANY peice of gear
>satisfied anyones need to where they dont have to look elsewhere. not even
>DSP systems (which are more advanced than anything else in the market) go
>beyond my wildest dreams. If a sampler and a few synths will go beyond
>your wildest dreams, then you are one LUCKY electronic musician. and you
>will save TONS of money over your carreer.
>
>
><<Well, I went through that
> > phase and then I realized that nothing is really ever new anyway, we all
> > recycle our influences, and originality is great, but only when combined
> > with quality, which implies the ability to communicate emotions and
> > ideas through music, some of which are timeless and old and others are
> > new... you have to be able to combine all of the forces together to
> > achieve greatness...>>
>
>Jesus! do you even know what a KYMA does???? or beyond that, have you
>used
>one??
>So you know what it can do to your influences, your recylcled influences.
>Im happy with this "phase" im going thru. This "phase" allows me to do
>things with my equipment you C
>AN NOT do with any other peice of gear.
>
>I feel that anyone can make electronic music. my mother has given it a
>shot
>and she listens to jazz. But to be an innovator you must stay on top of
>technology and break barriers that no one else is. That is my hope with
>DSP
>systems. And am sure this is why Atom Heart/Autechre/Low Rez and others
>buy
>these systems, to get unique sounds, and to give them flexibility they did
>not have with conventional gear.
>
>Take it easy.
>
>~swamay~
>
>www.mp3.com/swamay
>www.swamay.com
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Josh Bown" <josh@undertone.com>
>To: "swamay" <swamay@home.com>
>Cc: "Paul Chillage" <paulchillage@hotmail.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 12:56 PM
>Subject: Re: [idm] last 6 months rule
>
>
> > comments inline below:
> >
> > swamay wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > If you're not using technology developed within the last 6
>months,
> > > > >you're
> > > > > > a reflection of the past. Please, if you have a serious
>dedication
> > > > >towards
> > > > > > forwarding electronic music technology, don't use any
>synthesizers
> > > > or
> > > > > > samplers.
> > >
> > > We both meant "hardware" synths and samplers. We use DSP or a hybrid
>of
> > > hard/software.
> > > using an ASR-10 or a KORG keyboard is a bit overreated. they dont do
>much
> > > anymore.
> > > We make "samplers" or "synths" on the computer now a days.
> >
> > who wants to lug a computer to a gig????
> >
> > also, I like knobs!!!! the simpler the better... who needs more than a
> > few waveforms, a couple envelopes and a couple of LFOs???? WHY?????
> > Have you ever considered that maybe the problem isn't that you don't
> > have enough new gadgets, but that you just lack talent????
> >
> > New sound and gadget obsession is not a sign of musical innovation, it
> > is a sign of boredom and boringness and means you are probably just a
> > sound designer who wishes he was a musician. SOund designers get paid
> > big bucks in hollywood to do special effects in sci-fi movies... Why not
> > go get a job in hollywood and you will be more successful than 99.99% of
> > all musicians out there....
> >
> > >
> > > >So once the album is over 6 months old its not relevant any more
>because
> > > the
> > > > technology is "old"!!!
> > >
> > > No an album made in the past 6 months does not get dissed. But using
>the
> > > "standard" off the shelf gear to make that album does.
> > > Thats what i mean by be an innovator.
> >
> > ok so before you have even heard my album, the fact that I am using a
> > Nord, my guitar, a sampler and some effects already eliminates it from
> > consideration? man.... WOW you are just too much!
> >
> > > But course there are those musicians that will always use the same old
>gear,
> > > because that is what they are comfortable with, and have no desire to
>move
> > > forward with new gear. And also dont want to go throught the learning
> > > curve.
> >
> > or because the fall in love with a particular instrument and it always
> > goes beyond their wildest dreams in satisfying their needs and they have
> > no reason to look elsewhere?
> >
> > >
> > > I think most musicians have made a rep with the gear they have, and
>fear
> > > rejection if their style changes in the slightest, due to new
>unfamiliar
> > > gear they are using.
> >
> > I think you must be smoking crack. Most musicians with any integrity
> > care not one iota about their "rep" and will use whatever tools are
> > necessary to accomplish the task at hand.... If you need a piano sound,
> > use a piano. If you need a rhodes keyboard sound, use one of those, if
> > you need a psychedelic synth sound, what's wrong with a Nord or even an
> > old MOOG or something?
> >
> > no hard feelings man, I just think you have a very unique taste or that
> > your style and taste is maybe going through a phase that I think we have
> > all been through where you focus on originality at all costs. In other
> > words, originality is all that matters, so just because no one else has
> > done it before or it's new makes it great... Well, I went through that
> > phase and then I realized that nothing is really ever new anyway, we all
> > recycle our influences, and originality is great, but only when combined
> > with quality, which implies the ability to communicate emotions and
> > ideas through music, some of which are timeless and old and others are
> > new... you have to be able to combine all of the forces together to
> > achieve greatness...
> >
> > in my humble opinion.....
>
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