I completely disagree with that line of thinking.
First off...using pop music as a focal point for your
argument towards classical technique training does not
make any sense....since Ms. Spears and many other "pop
stars" became famous not because of their training but
because...as rule humans especially americans
gravitate towards mediocrity....
Second of all...what does not make any sense to me is
the idea that people should be "taught" how to be
creative.
Creativity is all about stepping outside of
boundaries.
And please don't tell me you have to "learn" the
boundaries so you are able to adequately step outside
of them because that's a load of crap.
Classical music and technique is nothing but a bunch
of mathematics and you don't need to learn classical
music to put together amazing compositions or to play
amazing music.....
If needing to learn anything about classical music is
imperative is maybe the concept that most classical
composers were making pop music for their time.
So perhaps we can equate that Beethoven was just
another Brittany Spears!!
Matt Loathing
--- Josh Bown <josh@undertone.com> wrote:
quoted 79 lines I don't really care about the stupid terms and
> I don't really care about the stupid terms and
> words... All I care about
> is the quality of available music in prerecorded and
> live scenerios. It
> seems to me that the quality has been suffering as
> of late, and in my
> opinion, the quality would improve if society
> imposed the hurdle of
> actually studying music and practicing an instrument
> on all those who
> sought to be called musicians....
>
> for those who disagree that quality has been
> suffering, I have two words
> for you:
>
> britney spears
>
> I sincerely doubt that aphex twin, autechre and the
> like would have been
> discouraged had they been exposed to traditional
> musicianship... in
> fact, I would be seriously surprised if they
> weren't. Aside from the few
> idiot savants who seem to be born musical geniuses
> without any practice
> or training I think the rest of the composing
> performing world would
> really benefit from learning to play a traditional
> instrument and
> learning a little about music theory etc... I
> believe this would have a
> profundly inspiring effect on musicians everywhere
> and would be nothing
> but beneficial for them and for society as a
> whole....
>
> i could be wrong
>
> matt loathing wrote:
> >
> > i think the biggest problem with this argument
> about
> > DJs not being musicians comes down to this:
> > there are Radio DJs who ramble all day and then
> play
> > CDs like their programming director tells them to
> and
> > then there are accomplished DJs who are able to
> take
> > the medium to a new level.
> > The DJs who have practiced their "techniques" are
> able
> > to take a record of a guy taking a dump on a four
> > track and scratch it up or mess it up or
> manipulate it
> > to sound like something that they, yes the DJ, has
> > created....
> > To say that DJ's are not musicians....just is
> > ignorance.
> > And to say that DJs that produce are few is a pile
> of
> > nonsense....
> > Most DJs that I know do produce and do release
> their
> > own tracks.
> >
> > Finally
> > We as humans and intellectuals have reduced
> ourselves
> > to the very meanings of words...instead of being
> > insightful enough to realize that words just can't
> > encapsulate the magnitude of what performance,
> > musicianship, art and music truly mean.
> >
> > Matt Loathing
> >
>
>
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