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From:
Clint Anderson
To:
Liam Frankland
Cc:
Jeff Davis , Brian Power , Laurent Knauth , Ransom Schafer , luca tommy tommasini , Bruno Gola , Ben Diamondstein , Rjyan Kidwell , cody jones , Idm List
Date:
Thu, 7 Jan 2016 19:16:24 -0600
Subject:
Re: What is Vaporwave?
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so what should i call all the stuff i like by richard devine, grischa lichtenberger, randomform, and the like? graincore? :) Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Liam Frankland <liamfrankland@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 243 lines Never heard of this genre until this as well. I have an album by 18 Clarat> Never heard of this genre until this as well. I have an album by 18 Clarat > Affair, Televised Tragedies... is that Vaporwave? Have i always been a fan > and i didn't know it? > > On 7 January 2016 at 16:02, Jeff Davis <jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com> wrote: > >> I actually knew nothing of this genre and its subreddit offspring until >> this thread (though I knew St Pepsi.) >> >> I love that a scene can create and self-replicate under the radar using >> today's technology. >> >> I'm listening to 2814 now and it's quite nice ambient background music >> https://youtu.be/F9L4q-0Pi4E >> >> thanks, >> >> *Jeffrey J Davis* >> >> jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com >> >> www.jeffreyjdavis.com >> >> 218.833.2847 >> >> <http://www.jeffreyjdavis.com> >> <https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JeffreyJDavis/about> >> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/phlow/> >> <http://instagram.com/jeffreyjdavis> >> >> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreyjdavis/> >> <http://www.twitter.com/jeffreyjdavis> >> <http://www.quora.com/Jeffrey-J-Davis> >> <https://soundcloud.com/jeffreyjdavis> >> >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 4:34 AM, Brian Power <minusplusequals@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> 100 Hours of Vaporwave >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJuUPaDFJKsvetvZRLxopu_fVI7DiJHxG >>> >>> I think I managed to get midway through the second hour, but may well >>> dip in again, some time soon. >>> >>> Much of it (Vaporwave) is exactly what folk say it is. But sometimes you >>> hit gold. Some producers even manage to sustain the hit for longer than a >>> single track. >>> >>> It's like wading through 80's vintage pop landfill trying to snuff out a >>> sonic truffle. >>> >>> I guess it mostly beats listening to FM radio... >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On 7 Jan 2016, at 05:56, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yeah, the sleeve design was terrific and regarding the audio, i've >>> always had the feeling that this album prefigured the *Rhythm >>> King/Coldcut*-like samples-(over)loaded «house music» that came out >>> soon after and which i instantly got into. >>> >>> It really sounds like some transitional album to me. >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 4:03 AM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Haha, yeah. I own a copy of Flaunt It. Its packed away somewhere. I >>>> always get a kick out thumbing through the CD booklet when I come across >>>> it. Class!! >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Laurent Knauth < >>>> laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Although i had never heard about this literally nebulous genre before >>>>> this thread popped in and after reading your comments, it turns out like >>>>> i've been listening to vaporwave in my late 80s without even knowing it >>>>> (maybe you have also) : >>>>> *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk30a0qsVIk >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk30a0qsVIk>* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:41 PM, luca tommy tommasini < >>>>> scaleni@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> an big answer after years and year >>>>>> of explorationz among clicks, glitchs, noise, fields... >>>>>> >>>>>> but i really dislike vapor-wave and acceletionasionism.. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2016-01-06 17:06 GMT+01:00 Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> speaking about ramona (Macintosh Plus), i love her other project >>>>>>> vektroid: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNP_QiOAHhQ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> for the record i enjoy the yacht rock stylings of daryl hall and >>>>>>>> john oates >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:47 AM, <ben@diamondste.in> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ten points to Clint. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>>>> ben majoy (mobile) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> someone who drinks too much robotussin and passes out listening to >>>>>>>>> hall & oates in the other room >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What is a Hipster? >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016 8:30 PM, "c. jones" <coda27@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's >>>>>>>>>>> reminiscing over a time they didn't exist in by ironically & lazily >>>>>>>>>>> sampling 80's hits and slowing them down so as to they're doing something >>>>>>>>>>> new and original, when in reality they're just contributing more and more >>>>>>>>>>> detritus to basically what's an inside joke. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:11:59 -0800 >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? >>>>>>>>>>> From: alecwild6@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> To: ben@diamondste.in >>>>>>>>>>> CC: kit.mauldin@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born >>>>>>>>>>> out of an aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the >>>>>>>>>>> aesthetic evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what >>>>>>>>>>> Vaporwave becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where >>>>>>>>>>> we draw the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately >>>>>>>>>>> released before "I'll try living like this", which I and many others >>>>>>>>>>> consider the best vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, >>>>>>>>>>> give the track "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the >>>>>>>>>>> overstimulation and grooves of that song are going to become a theme of >>>>>>>>>>> vaporwave at some point soon. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot >>>>>>>>>>> of people think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein < >>>>>>>>>>> ben@diamondste.in> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to >>>>>>>>>>> have a lot of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot >>>>>>>>>>> of academic-level discussion around it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin < >>>>>>>>>>> kit.mauldin@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag >>>>>>>>>>> is kind of the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case >>>>>>>>>>> you have a few millennia of free time to burn: >>>>>>>>>>> http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> >>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM >>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* What is Vaporwave? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be >>>>>>>>>>> worth bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about >>>>>>>>>>> Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a >>>>>>>>>>> pretty good job describing the history of (which is actually very >>>>>>>>>>> interesting). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and >>>>>>>>>>> can explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very >>>>>>>>>>> opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems >>>>>>>>>>> to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly >>>>>>>>>>> like IDM in its infancy. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is the song that people often reference most closely with >>>>>>>>>>> the genre. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> From the desk of Alec Wild >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com> >>>>>>> http://bgo.la/ >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >