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From:
Laurent Knauth
To:
Ransom Schafer
Cc:
luca tommy tommasini , Bruno Gola , Clint Anderson , Ben Diamondstein , Rjyan Kidwell , cody jones , Idm List
Date:
Thu, 7 Jan 2016 06:56:23 +0100
Subject:
Re: What is Vaporwave?
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Yeah, the sleeve design was terrific and regarding the audio, i've always had the feeling that this album prefigured the *Rhythm King/Coldcut*-like samples-(over)loaded «house music» that came out soon after and which i instantly got into. It really sounds like some transitional album to me. On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 4:03 AM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 171 lines Haha, yeah. I own a copy of Flaunt It. Its packed away somewhere. I always> Haha, yeah. I own a copy of Flaunt It. Its packed away somewhere. I always > get a kick out thumbing through the CD booklet when I come across it. > Class!! > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Although i had never heard about this literally nebulous genre before >> this thread popped in and after reading your comments, it turns out like >> i've been listening to vaporwave in my late 80s without even knowing it >> (maybe you have also) : >> *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk30a0qsVIk >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk30a0qsVIk>* >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:41 PM, luca tommy tommasini <scaleni@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> an big answer after years and year >>> of explorationz among clicks, glitchs, noise, fields... >>> >>> but i really dislike vapor-wave and acceletionasionism.. >>> >>> 2016-01-06 17:06 GMT+01:00 Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> speaking about ramona (Macintosh Plus), i love her other project >>>> vektroid: >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNP_QiOAHhQ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> for the record i enjoy the yacht rock stylings of daryl hall and john >>>>> oates >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:47 AM, <ben@diamondste.in> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ten points to Clint. >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks, >>>>>> ben majoy (mobile) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> someone who drinks too much robotussin and passes out listening to >>>>>> hall & oates in the other room >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> What is a Hipster? >>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016 8:30 PM, "c. jones" <coda27@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's >>>>>>>> reminiscing over a time they didn't exist in by ironically & lazily >>>>>>>> sampling 80's hits and slowing them down so as to they're doing something >>>>>>>> new and original, when in reality they're just contributing more and more >>>>>>>> detritus to basically what's an inside joke. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:11:59 -0800 >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? >>>>>>>> From: alecwild6@gmail.com >>>>>>>> To: ben@diamondste.in >>>>>>>> CC: kit.mauldin@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born out >>>>>>>> of an aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the >>>>>>>> aesthetic evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what >>>>>>>> Vaporwave becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where >>>>>>>> we draw the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately released >>>>>>>> before "I'll try living like this", which I and many others consider the >>>>>>>> best vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, give the >>>>>>>> track "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the overstimulation >>>>>>>> and grooves of that song are going to become a theme of vaporwave at some >>>>>>>> point soon. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot of >>>>>>>> people think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to >>>>>>>> have a lot of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot >>>>>>>> of academic-level discussion around it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin < >>>>>>>> kit.mauldin@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is >>>>>>>> kind of the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case >>>>>>>> you have a few millennia of free time to burn: >>>>>>>> http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> *From:* Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>>>>>>> *To:* Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM >>>>>>>> *Subject:* What is Vaporwave? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth >>>>>>>> bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about >>>>>>>> Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty >>>>>>>> good job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and >>>>>>>> can explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very >>>>>>>> opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems >>>>>>>> to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly >>>>>>>> like IDM in its infancy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is the song that people often reference most closely with the >>>>>>>> genre. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> From the desk of Alec Wild >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com> >>>> http://bgo.la/ >>>> >>> >>>