CAN YOU SAY IGNANT?
At 06:13 PM 1/9/2001 -0500, n:h wrote:
quoted 93 lines Not sure where you get that I imply 'that only rich people should be able
>Not sure where you get that I imply 'that only rich people should be able
>to make music'.
>
>I did not mean to come off as elitist, the people on this list who know me
>know that's the farthest thing from my mind. In fact I am a huge propenent
>of the notion of putting the means of creation within everyone's reach.
>
>The point I was trying to make was that *there is simply so much to hear,
>see and experience*, in all media right now, I can't keep up. What's more
>the ratio of orginality vs. derivation (with reagrd to digital art) is
>snowballing in favor if derivation. And yes the argument of 'there will
>always be crap, filter it to find the gems' is a valid one. But I feel
>like more and more of our intuitive creation processes are being broken
>down into mathematical formulas, which I just don't 'feel' the way I did
>when I heard the first IDM type records 10 years ago. Who knows, perhaps I
>am just tired of IDM and need new highs...
>
>Part of my frustration is also based on the fact that as an art director
>working in the web industry, I see the exact same thing happening in that
>visual medium. Everyone craps their pants about the funkstorung and
>Schematic web sites, when both of them use every Flash formula in the
>book; formulas, like Max/MSP patches, which can downloaded from the web
>and used. All those little tricks on Funkstrong.com were taken from Josh
>Davis @ praystation.com. WHat's more, Josh freely distributes all these
>scripts, which is cool (going back to the whole idea of sharing/power to
>the people/whatever); in fact I used the dragg-able palette script in my
>own site! But the truth is, while I appreciate the technical aspects of
>funkstorung.com, or barneys.com, or one9ine.com (or any of the dozens of
>these types of sites), they don't *move* me.
>
>www.elixirstudios.com is about the only one of these sites I am truly
>moved by, because it is so smartly built, the concepts are just as strong
>as the execution...he's one of the gems I suppose
>
>sorry to go off on a web design tangent...
>
>I guess I am suffering from little 'digital arthritis' (anything that can
>be digital will be), and am not entirely convinced that all this 'sharing'
>is really helping things, at least in terms of making art with staying
>power, even when I am guilty of being one of the perpetrators...
>
>nate
>
>
> On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, atomly wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 04:07:20PM -0500, n:h wrote:
> > > We all have access to the same toolset now, and derivation is running
> > > rampant, with myself being one of the contributors. I'm not sure what to
> > > think actually. I don't know whether to be thrilled or depressed with
> this
> > > 'paradigm shift' of music creation (or any creation involving digital
> > > tools) we ar witnessing. And I type this as I watch the Apple Keynote
> > > showcasing the sick sick new G4 powerbooks (who doesn't want one of
> > > these?), including a clip of electronic music artist BT saying something
> > > about eveyone being able to make music now...
> > >
> > > is there such a thing as too much creation? Too much content? Are any of
> > > you guys' musical passions becoming desensitized due to this media
> > > blitzkrieg?
> >
> > This is the most elitist idea I've heard in a long time... You're
> > essentially saying that only rich people should be able to make music
> > (I know that you may not have intended it this way, but that's how it's
> > coming out).
> >
> > People made all these same arguments when cheap 4 track recorders came
> > out and I'd say that those only served to help out music. You think
> > punk or indie would've ever happened if bands couldn't record
> > themselves?
> >
> > I will put this theory forward: As the monetary level of entry to music
> > decreases, the worst music will be worse than previously, but the best
> > music will also be better than previously... I can put up with having
> > two bad Autechre ripoffs if it means that somebody as revolutionary as
> > Autechre also comes along at some point.
> >
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> >
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