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sarah ellenberger
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Fri, 22 Dec 2000 19:35:38 -0500
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Re: [idm] Re: re:stupidest thing ever posted
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quoted 35 lines From: "Gilly" <galaxey@sdccu.net>>From: "Gilly" <galaxey@sdccu.net> >To: "Benjamin McDonald" <warpfan@hotmail.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: [idm] Re: re:stupidest thing ever posted >Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:00:25 -0800 > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Benjamin McDonald <warpfan@hotmail.com> >To: <galaxey@sdccu.net>; <idm@hyperreal.org> >Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 10:57 AM >Subject: re:stupidest thing ever posted > > >: whoa, got to throw my hat into the ring on this one. >: "they havent changed their formulas at all"? HUH? Did you buy EP7? Did >you >: buy lp5? neither are anything alike or anything like amber or Tri, hince >why >: they "alienated" fans. > >I have everything they've put out (or close to it:) > >If you want to talk about people who havnet changed >: formulas, talk about Plaid or something... > > > >not Autechre/ they are thinking of >: music in ways that alot of people cant grasp yet (sort of like what >: Jenkinson is doing w/his stuff). > > >the thing (formula) i'm referring to that Ae can never seem to change is >the >constant LOOP!
i think what may sound like a loop is more of a "rotation". within that "rotation" are layered more "rotations" and often there is hardly any repetition in ae's music. although it may sound "loopey" at face value. and i would venture to say that techno music in general was founded on that very formula
quoted 17 lines Seem like almost everything they do, even LP5 is creat a killer loop and>Seem like almost everything they do, even LP5 is creat a killer loop and >then edit that loop >and re-edit and re edit and then record all that as a 5-8minute track. > > >Plaid, they write music with structures more like pop musicians do >begining, >middle, end. (like a rock band may write verse-chorus, verse chorus, verse- >chorus, chorus, chorus, chorus) Plaid will write an intro, nice harmony, >dancey rhythm, break change in mood, return to harmony/melody. >Ae loop loop looop loop looop loop. >I like Ae, but to me they don't push the envolope like the majority of the >list think they do. Their music is distinct, sounds darker than most >artists >imho, has it's own rhythmic uniqueness, but doesn't really go anywhere once >that is established (within the first 20seconds of the 6+minute tune) One >Plaid track can cross a number of genres within it's 6minute framework.
i think plaid's kinda generic and trendy... they're okay i guess... poppy and catchy like you said and i may get slammed for saying this, but i don't think their music is anywhere near as intelligent or psychedelic as autechre's .... of course, that's no good reason to form an opinion.. but i like the smart shit.
quoted 4 lines Aphex, 'fucker hasn't written anything good since ON... he's done, over,> > >Aphex, 'fucker hasn't written anything good since ON... he's done, over, >finito....
whew! good thing you're not steve beckett or head of warner bros.
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