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Kevin Ryan @
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Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:50:31 -0000
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Re: [idm] Re: loopbuster
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<<But, I admit that Cage's chance pieces is an interesting proposition... ;) Are there loops in chaos?>> The dog-fucker might be off the hook here. Some of Cage's most experimental pieces are collages of reel-to-reel tape, in which case the music is made using two kinds of loops: (1) the tape mechanism itself is a loop and (2) the making of the tape consisted of a repetitive (looped) process of snipping pseudorandom parts of other tapes (Cage and a few friends lounged around on an apartment floor in Chicago and just snipped tapes all night). It's harder to find loops in Cage's so-called "silent" pieces. In 4'33" the pianist opens and closes the piano, waits, and repeats that action 3 times, so that's a loop in the liberal sense of the term we are using. Although Cage's intent with the piece was to focus on the sounds of the audience, the ventilation system, etc., and he regretted later in life that he had the pianist do anything, there still remains that loop in the piece, and Cage never wrote a completely silent piece. Cage also wrote a number of relatively traditional compositions, which have the same kinds of loops any classical music would. In fact, isn't anything with a score loopish to some extent? I mean, even if you score with a parametric schema, like Cage, you still have repeated "bars" or other graphic iterations on the page, right? And Cage did score all of his pieces, as far as I know. I suppose you can find loops anywhere if you're feeling loopy enough. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org