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Matthew Korfhage
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Date:
Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:20:31 -0800
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[idm] Re: re:stupidest thing ever posted
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"Gilly" <galaxey@sdccu.net> wrote:
quoted 4 lines the thing (formula) i'm referring to that Ae can never seem to change >is>the thing (formula) i'm referring to that Ae can never seem to change >is >the constant LOOP! Seem like almost everything they do, even LP5 >is creat >a killer loop and then edit that loop and re-edit and re >edit and then >record all that as a 5-8minute track.
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quoted 5 lines Ae loop loop looop loop looop loop. I like Ae, but to me they don't >push>Ae loop loop looop loop looop loop. I like Ae, but to me they don't >push >the envolope like the majority of the list think they do. Their >music is >distinct, sounds darker than most artists imho, has it's >own rhythmic >uniqueness, but doesn't really go anywhere once that is >established >(within the first 20seconds of the 6+minute tune)
Oh, I think things are a little more complicated than that. It'd be fairly difficult to fit, say, maphive6.1 off EP7 (track 8) comfortably into that framework. The first track (rpeg) also works with morphing melodic loop structures in a much different way than one would have previously expected from autechre, even if the beats are locked in a simple cycle through most of the song (although as far as I'm concerned the most significant thing about the beats in that song is where they drop in and out and then in again toward the beginning--it's admittedly a much-used device, but it makes me happy). Granted, though, autechre doesn't do any genre-hopping, and never has, and their songs generally maintain a certain mood throughout an individual track, this last often being accomplished by working with a limited (initial) sound palette. But then, I guess I don't view that approach to songwriting as a terrific rut or a sign that they're operating within a staid or stagnant framework-- I might be annoyed as hell if autechre started churning out frenetic pastiche instead of working within self-defined boundaries. Incidentally, the two tracks I mentioned above are also my fave tracks on the ep, although despite numerous props for the last three songs on the platter (and really, other than the beats being punched into a waterpipe, pir is just a really pleasant Aphex Twin tune), I can't say I've heard any mention of either rpeg or maphive6.1 on-list. ... Natch, though, the actual innovation in autechre's current output is pretty much cloistered in rhythm and sound design as opposed to song structure, so there you go. Take out some of the new noises they've been playing with, and much of ep7 would fit pretty comfortably onto chiastic slide or tri repetae, and I'm in full agreement that the song construction is generally not that surprising, all through. Oh-- I know this has been discussed before by those of you with the luxury of being mp3-capable (yes, there are those of us out there who aren't), but out of curiosity and lack of recollection, just what direction did autechre take on their (forthcoming) second peel session? Also incidentally, and not to start a full-blown pronunciation thread again, does anyone else pronounce ccec "ch-check" like the sound of a stuttering MC? It's a nicely moronic joke, if that's what was intended, given the vocal sampling. Fits well with the wonky humor on display in dubbing "left blank". Cheers, M. ----- Made with affection by distrustful lovers. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org