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From:
Ed Hall
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Date:
Mon, 09 Oct 2000 19:46:52 -0700
Subject:
Re: [idm] datach'i/ Gamelan/ Oval
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andrei@world.std.com writes: : Ed Hall wrote: : : > Electronic music eliminates the player, while improvisational music : > eliminates the composer. : : Improvisation is instant composition. As long as one's playing some sort of : "instrument" and one's making conscious decisions about what one's playing, : one is composing. Composition comes _out of_ improvisation. There really is : no such thing as free improvisation. Even the freest of improvisers have : "licks". And recordings of : improvised music tend to become more like : compositions to the listener if listened to repeatedly. : : I realize I'm taking your statement a bit out of contest. Actually, you're not. The point that composer and player are combined in improvisation is well-taken. I would extend that to the possibility that all three can be combined. Further, if a listener imposes a mental grid around ambient sounds that makes them musical to him or her, then they are, in fact, music -- just like the mental grid I project upon a Bach fugue makes it musical to me though the same sounds might be "noise" to a Bantu tribesman. -Ed P.S. A somewhat more amusing John Cage quote follows: I was surprised when I came into Mother's room in the nursing home to see that the TV set was on. The program was teenagers dancing to rock-and-roll. I asked Mother how she liked the new music. She said, "Oh, I'm not fussy about music." Then, brightening up, she went on, "You're not fussy about music either." --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org