In a message dated 10/8/00 2:35:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
brianalbers@hotmail.com writes:
<< I could make a CD that sounds like shit and is totally original, there is
no
difficulty at all in doing that, but will a record label sign me on that
note? FUCK no, and will I get recognition, FUCK no, and will I get a review
that says I made the best CD, FUCK NO.
Totally disagree. Did you not read what I wrote about The Shaggs and the
Kids of Whidney High? These are shitty bands playing shitty music recorded
in shitty studios. And they continue to put out cds and have many fans who
buy them. Last time the Whidney High kids played in LA it was at the House
of Blues. Which is three times as big as the Viper Room where Funkstorung
plays this week.
You obviously have never sent a cd to a record label.
Do you not know about Wesley Willis? He is some homeless guy from San
Francisco who found a Casio toy keyboard and started making up lyrics to the
built-in drum pattern. He used the same pattern for every song. He made
ridiculous songs the most well known of which was "Rock and Roll McDonalds."
Rick Rubin signed him to American Recordings where he put out numerous cds.
Yes I know of wesley willis, people only buy his CD because it is fucking
funny to hear rediculous music... Its only got laugh value, which is still
not good music.. Do you really think there are people that think his music is
GOOD?
What about the GOOD artists who can make a melody that can make you feel
emotions, ISNT THAT WHAT MUSIC IS ABOUT??? HUH?
Just because you feel one emotion while listening to a certain song doesn't
mean every other person listening to that same song feels the same emotion.
Example. Back in the 80s when that Faith No More album came out a friend of
mine really liked it. I listened to it and thought it was horseshit. Being a
guitarist, it baffled me how anyone could like it. Their guitarist played
the same chords the whole way- E, B, C, D, A, G. How could that be
interseting to anybody? My friend didn't care about any of that. She just
liked the way it sounded- the way it made her feel. Just because I use these
other criteria in listening to music doesn't make my judgement of that music
any more viable than hers.
Umm, you do realize that you just said that you thought the music was
horseshit, which is what you just said was wrong to say about any music..
Mhmm...
and there was less distortion, and there was NOTES in every SONG.. and the
songs progressed into things.. in short it was real MUSIC.
So what's your definition of music? It's gotta have no distortion and it's
gotta have notes and every song must develop. Is Merzbow not music? Have you
heard African drum music? It doesn't have notes and may or may not develop.
So I guess by your definition it's not music.
I never said anything about distortion being bad?? where did that come from,
I am a big ATR fan, and a big old aphex (the harder minimal stuff) fan. And
I never said that it has to develop, but it does have to have more than just
a fucked up badly recorded drum beat. I make the analogy of anatomy... Are
you your arm, or you leg? No, you are the collective organization of all
your body parts working in unison controlled by your brain. So why is a
fucked up drum beat that repeats over and over a song?
Have you heard gamelon orchestras? Or Oval? Or any of those cds on Fax
that are just one note sustained for an hour? Is that not music?
No, that is not music, and no I have never heard it, and thank you for
telling me so that I wont buy it.
Everything you've expressed in your e-mails has been an OPINION. You are
absolutely entitled to it just as I am entitled to mine. There is no black
or white.
Yes, we both have different opinions, and I never said your opinion was
downright wrong, I was just trying to show you what I think and support it
with evidence to make it make more sense.. just like you did
And I dont meen to be argumentative, and I was joking in my last comment in
the other mail.. look, Im glad there are supporters of this music out there,
but I just don't think people put credit where it deserves.... I meen, I have
heard many artists on the internet that I think deserve awards for their
music, because they are passionate about it, and they are good at it.. and
they have a talent that deserves recognition, but they arent getting their
music out because people spent their money on this crap, and I am just
ranting and raving because I am downright pissed off that I was tricked, that
sticker on the front of the cd case lied, and don't say it didn't because
this was most deffinately not the best release.. and I am also pissed off
that I bought schnider tm's moise, because it said it was (in so many words)
better then, and similar to aphex twin, who I am obviosly a fan of. I think
this would all be resolved if I could return my cds to the guys who sold them
to me, but I can't.. and I don't want to support music like this.
nick
www.manicdetroit.com
www.8bitpeoples.com
www.mp3.com/manicdetroit
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